How many are using their 2a rights

How many are using their 2a rights

This is a discussion on How many are using their 2a rights within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Does anyone know how many people currently have their CHL in Texas and even nationally. It would be interesting to find out how many people ...

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    How many are using their 2a rights

    Does anyone know how many people currently have their CHL in Texas and even nationally. It would be interesting to find out how many people around the US is an active CHL carrier. thx.
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    My guess is about 2-3% of the population.
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    Have one in MI and TX honors my MI permit.
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    Check the DPS website they have stats on TX, just don't know how current they are.
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    Even if you knew how many permits were issued nationally, it isn't going to be accurate. Remember Vermont and Alaska do not require a permit to carry concealed, and many states allow open carry without a permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby45 View Post
    My guess is about 2-3% of the population.

    You think it's that low? I was figuring along the lines of 10%

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    Not all people who have a license to carry concealed do so on a daily basis, and given the nature of "concealed" (aka hidden, not obvious, inconspicuous) carry, counting permits is a poor gauge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby45 View Post
    My guess is about 2-3% of the population.
    This is likely pretty close, maybe a little low, but not by much.

    It's 1.99% in Montana.


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    The # of folks in PA with PA LTC is comparatively high. Over 5% I think.
    Always remember that we are still a very small percentage of the total U.S. population.

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    ...and there is a difference exercising 2A rights in carrying and owning. Far more owners that do not conceal or open carry.

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    My guess from previous inquiries would be 2.5 to less than 3% have a CCW permit, and probably only half that number actually carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigStill View Post
    You think it's that low? I was figuring along the lines of 10%
    30 million people? Nah I dont think so. Yeah Im going with 2-5 percent at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllAmerican View Post
    30 million people? Nah I dont think so. Yeah Im going with 2-5 percent at best.
    I would actually go with his 10% or probably higher if you're counting all gun owners. Your numbers I would think right for counting CC and OC only.

    [ mini rant ]
    But the title of this thread exemplifies the division between gun owners. "How many are using their 2a rights" is meant to question how many people CC. Some people mentioned OC, but it wasn't considered as part of the original question. And only one or two other people equated using their 2a rights as more than just carrying a gun. This leaves out all of the hunters and people that just keep one at home for protection and the private owners/collectors.

    We're not alone in excluding the other gun owners in our thoughts. I've noticed some of the hunting mags seem to poo-poo SD uses for weapons, not really seeming to care if we lose our rights as long as they can keep hunting. I think all gun owners need to stick together more often than we do. Our rights all derive from the same source, and if one group is allowed to be done away with, it leaves the other groups in a weaker position when they come for their guns too.
    [/ mini rant ]

    EDIT: Sorry for the rant, and it isn't directed towards anyone so I hope no one takes offense. It just seems more and more lately that I'm noticing the division between gun owners growing. United we stand, divided we fall.
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    I don't believe the Second Amendment has much to do with concealed carry of short-range personal defensive weapons. The Second Amendment has more to do with rifles. As Lt. Col. Cooper indicated, good men with rifles are difficult to tyrannize. The ability to carry personal defensive weapons is a much more fundamental right than the Second Amendment, rooted in the right to self-defense. Yes, these rights should indeed both be defended vigorously. But, you don't fight tyranny with a pocket pistol.

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    I agree that 2a is far larger than just SD and CCP holders.
    Therefore it is very hard to predict the real numbers.
    I have heard that there were comments from high ranking military persons from China or the old Soviet Union, that said something to the effect that there would not be a land invasion of the US because of 2a and how they have no way of determining just how armed the population really is.
    (Sorry, I can't back that up with facts. Just something I remember hearing once.)

    On the hunting note, I understand that there are "organizations" that pose as pro hunting, but are anti SD or even anti gun. For that reason we do have to all stick together.
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