Privacy of CWP...rearing its head in the Mountain State, NRA intervening

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    Privacy of CWP...rearing its head in the Mountain State, NRA intervening

    The Register-Herald, Beckley, West Virginia - Gun bill battles playing out in both chambers

    Saw this in the local paper this morning...WV members call or contact your legislators.

    The public and media and apparently some LE dont get it.
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    Good Luck with that!
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    yikes!

    Reminds me of an episode of O'Reily Factor where they were showing how some clown took the names and address' of everyone who donated political contributions to organizations supporting Prop8 in California - then used Google maps to create a map of thumbnails of everyone's information available on the web.

    In the days when encounters with nutjobs seem that much more frequent, I can count a half dozen reasons why my neighbors or anyone across town has any business knowing I have a permit.

    If you live in WV, you need to find that map or an article about that story and make sure your representative has a copy!
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    Thanks for the heads-up! Wasn't aware the sneaky bas....well, anyway. Going to WVCDL.org to check it out.

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    My wife's family lives in WV and I cannot carry there with my TX CCL. The reason seems to be that TX permit holders are not a part of public records, and WV's current law requires that police be able to access the records of permit holders at a traffic stop or etc. I would realy like this law to go through because it would likely allow me to carry there when visiting family--which is pretty often.

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    And another reason the public shouldn't know you carry:

    Suppose you & your next door neighbor don't get along. One day you have a big argument over something. The neighbor, knowing that you carry, calls the sheriff and tells him that during the course of the argument, you brandished your gun [at him]. Now, it's his word against yours and the sheriff knows you do have a carry permit.

    I've heard of this happening more than once.

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    Question

    Here's WVCDL's homepage:
    West Virginia Citizens Defense League (WVCDL)

    Go to right hand column for some interesting "stuff".

    Looks like the bill to put CCW notations on DL's is dead. I can imagine going to MD or NJ unarmed and being stopped for a traffic violation, etc. and LEO's tearing my car apart, without apologies!

    I guess I'll be going to the 2nd Amend March in DC Spring of 2010. Will leave CCW @ daughter's in VA. Most dangerous places in the country and I have to disarm

    Firkin: SB378 may help with reciprocity for you, without the public record hassle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firkin View Post
    My wife's family lives in WV and I cannot carry there with my TX CCL. The reason seems to be that TX permit holders are not a part of public records, and WV's current law requires that police be able to access the records of permit holders at a traffic stop or etc. I would realy like this law to go through because it would likely allow me to carry there when visiting family--which is pretty often.
    Maybe I didn't read the article appropriately - but isn't the bill about allowing the average Joe or antigunner Jane to request a list of permit holders though public records not LEO access? Or are you refering to the reciprocity part of the bill (that was where my eyes glazed over because it didn't apply to me)?
    "Run for your life from the man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another-their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun."

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    It just can't understand why you have to have a permit for something that is supposed to be concealed then you tell everyone who has a permit.

    What is the point of being concealed if the state tells everyone who you are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firkin View Post
    My wife's family lives in WV and I cannot carry there with my TX CCL. The reason seems to be that TX permit holders are not a part of public records, and WV's current law requires that police be able to access the records of permit holders at a traffic stop or etc. I would realy like this law to go through because it would likely allow me to carry there when visiting family--which is pretty often.

    Strange. Florida's CCW holders are not public record but resident CCW holders can carry in WV.

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