Carrying out of the country?
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I have two CWP's.. One ...
April 8th, 2009 04:43 AM
Carrying out of the country?
Ok, so I am driving up to Canada next month, from May 10 to the 15th and then flying back...
I have two CWP's.. One from SC and the other from NH.
How would you go about taking the firearm over the border into Canada? (obviously not being able to carry in Canada and the states which do not offer reciprocity) and then do I have to notify the airline in advance that I am traveling with a gun?
April 8th, 2009 05:17 AM
My first thought was there would be no way Canada would let you bring in a handgun. After conferring with google and the RCMP it looks like it might be possible, but I suspect it will be a huge hassle.
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April 8th, 2009 05:36 AM
Owning a gun in Socialist Canada is very different than owning one here. LoL. A trillion times more difficult. I believe they even have to notify police when they are traveling with their rifles in their cars to hunting grounds and what not. So I doubt letting a non-resident have one there, let alone carry it, would be extremely difficult if not impossible.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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April 8th, 2009 06:32 AM
Unless you work for the State Department or a security detail for the President, it's simply not going to happen. Try even getting across the border with a previous DWI on your record (even 25 years ago, which happened to a friend of mine).
Hunting firearms have their own restrictions, which I imagine are fairly severe as well.
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April 8th, 2009 07:38 AM
Well, I was hoping it was not going to be a problem.. I would hate to have to leave my gun here, and take a long long road trip without it :-(
April 8th, 2009 07:38 AM
You want a practice 'hassle'? Just wear a 'National Rifle Association' hat across the boarder...your car will be disassembled down to the nuts and bolts.
I wouldn't take even as much as a bullet across the border...
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April 8th, 2009 08:14 AM
Originally Posted by Acecool
Afraid you are going to have to. You cannot carry your firearm into Canada.
April 8th, 2009 08:26 AM
For all practical purposes, law abiding citizens are NOT allowed pistols in Canada.
There are no allowances for transporting pistol, not even breaking it down, and separating it from ammo.
Have fun and don’t forget your passport
April 8th, 2009 09:31 AM
I'm not sure you can cross the border with a handgun unless its for hunting purposes. When I used to hunt in Canada with a gun, I had to file a boat load of paper work months in advance prior to entering and receive special authorization to bring my guns across the border. I mostly hunt by archery now so it isnt quite as restricted. Since 9/11, I bet you will have even a harder time getting back into the U.S. now.
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April 8th, 2009 09:45 AM
Canada has extremely tough laws on weapons of any type. I lost a custom made knife to Canadian Customs. I had shipped the knife to a sheath maker in Canada and when it went through customs, they declared that "although it required considerable effort, the knife could be made to open by flicking the wrist and was therefore an illegal gravity knife". I wouldn't even consider trying to enter Canada with a firearm or even one round of ammo.
April 8th, 2009 09:51 AM
I read the form and if you don't mind jumping thru the hoops I think it is possible. A phone call before hand should help clear up things. Just get the name of person who gave you the info. I would search of shooting clubs in Canada and see if you can make a reservation for some range time. I would find out it you can cancel with 24-48 hours advance notice.I would leave a deposit but make sure that you have enough window to cancel. I would print out the rsevation or have in mailed or faxed to me as proof of a range time. So when you are asked at the boarder crossing where/what do you plan on doing or going with your firearm. You can provide the documentation, will look better in the eyes of Boarder Patrol on whty a firearm is coming in.
Maybe look into a range or gun club in Niagara Falls, NY side area that have lockers that you can rent for the time that you will be in Canada. Drop it off and pick back up on the way home. How much can a locker be? $30.00 per Month. You could also look into renting a safety deposit box from local bank NY side right before entering Canada for the month? I would check that the bank has availability and it would be a problem that you live in SC. If you bank locally with Chase I would try a Chase branch up there.
I am also sure that you can find somebody on the DC site will hold onto it until you are back in NY side.
Last option find a 24 hour self storage place that is running a promo like $1.00 move in. Take the smallest room drop it off and swing by to pick her up on the way back home. The best lock to use on a self-storage is a stainless steel round disk lock. Looks like a hockey puck they are pia to cut off. Hope some of this helps.
April 8th, 2009 10:17 AM
Taking a gun to Canada? Fat chance. Here's why.
Back in '05 the wife and I went to Ontairo via Port Huron, MI. The Canadian boarder guard questioned me to the max, including, "do you OWN any weapons?" "You cannot bring any into Canada." I responded, "yes, I own weapons". He asked me what type and I began the list of "S&W 9mm, .357 Magnum, Rossi .38spl, Browning .22, M-1 Carbine oh and the cheapo .25 auto.
After the surprised look drained from his face, he asked me" well what do you do with those weapons?" I responded with, "We hunt with them." His sarcastic reply was " just what do you hunt with a 9mm pistol???"
I was getting tired of this so holding my empty hands out of the truck in a large gesture, I sarcastically replied, "Rats.......we have these HUGE rats in West Virginia!" Then I added, that ALL my weapons were back in West Virginia, a full 500+ miles away (couldn't translate it into Kilometers at the moment) and that if that was a problem, I could just turn around and go back to the United States.
He just grinned,shook his head and told me to proceed on into Canadan and have a nice visit. I suspect however I was placed on the Ontario Provincial Police Dept. list for a few hours though.
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April 8th, 2009 11:01 AM
Knife forums are full of accounts of folding knives being seized by Canadian Customs, even when the same model of knife is being sold in Canada. I won't try carrying any nice folders across the border! As for handguns, well, except for pure competition handguns, this is going to be difficult. Long guns are MUCH easier, if they are of a type that can be reasonably used for defense against animals, as Canada has much wilderness, and recognizes bear defense as legitimate.
A Canadian friend advised that it is VERY important to NEVER say any knife or firearm is a "weapon," or to be used against humans! Intent is very important.
Hunting firearms, and firearms for defensive use against animals, are not so difficult to carry into Canada. Inquire at your nearest Canadian consulate for the particulars.
I am not experienced at crossing into Canada with firearms, but have spoken to people who have done so. I have only crossed into Canada to visit the urbanized areas near Niagara Falls. I had planned to take a ferry from Port Angeles to British Columbia during a long road trip in 1990, but some now-forgotten event caused me to cut the trip short. Good thing, as when I got home, and was unloading stuff, I found a forgotten loaded pistol magazine in my glove box!
April 8th, 2009 01:38 PM
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When I drove to Alaska via the ALCAN Highway in 1969, I took three revolvers with me. Upon entering Canada, the Canadian Customs Officer affixed a Customs seal to my locked gun case, bade me a safe trip and I was good to go.
On the northern end, the Customs Officer inspected the seal, verified that it had not been tampered with, and passed me through.
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April 8th, 2009 01:39 PM
You don't unless you want to risk jail time.
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