Importance of CCW To You?
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Mankind has always been self centered and violent.
As a result many of us have elected to own, carry, and use ...
April 9th, 2009 09:14 PM
Importance of CCW To You?
How Important Is CCW?
Mankind has always been self centered and violent.
As a result many of us have elected to own, carry, and use self defense firearms. We, obviously believe this is necessary for the protection of our families and ourselves.
However, as I read the various forums, and threads I have to wonder if many do not have an incorrect focus as to carrying and your personal safety vs life’s priorities. Is your safety the most important thing in your life? It is not the most important thing in my life. Let me give some examples.
1. My relationships with close family members are more important.
I recall various posts that indicate a person will not go anywhere he cannot carry. (Note that I make no attempt to remember what individuals say on these forums, even if they attack me.)
I do remember a thread probably a year ago where one person said that his mother was to give a Thanksgiving dinner, but did not want him to carry. He decided not to go if he could not carry. My relationship with my mother is more important than my safety. That is especially true since millions of families have dinners and no one storms into the house and starts shooting. In fact if someone broke in it is my opinion that armed or not he might have been able to be a factor in subduing the BG.
I once attended a funeral of a very close family member. I asked the father if he objected to my carrying. He carries himself, but said he would prefer that I not carry. I honored that preference. My relationship with him was more important than my safety.
2. My relationship with my Lord Jesus is more important than my safety. If I were called to be a missionary to a dangerous land my family and I would go. Throughout the ages many dedicated Christians have been murdered for the practice of their faith and the spreading of the gospel.
Serving Christ in my local church is more important than my safety. Although my own pastor is glad that I carry if he objected I would not carry in church. My service as a part of my local church is more important than my safety. I would not leave the church because I could not carry.
3. My integrity is more important than my safety. If I were obligated by job or whatever to refrain from carrying I would do so. I might find another job, but I might not. I served a career in the military and was prohibited from carrying on post, and maybe other places, but I did not give up my career or lie about it.
My purpose is not to belittle CCW or those who carry. I also carry probably 90% of the time, but I do not let CCW control my life or where I will or will not go. I go where I need or want to go, and whether or not I can carry has no impact.
It is somewhat a contradiction that some would not go to the mall because guns are not allowed and they cannot defend themselves. However, their wives go. If it is dangerous for the husband isn’t it equally dangerous for the wife?
Is CCW the most important thing in your life, or does it greatly dictate where you will and will not go, and is the sole reason for your position?
I won’t try to defend my positions, and get into a long argument. But those are some reasons that CCW is not the most important thing in my life.
Just food for thought.
April 9th, 2009 09:14 PM
April 9th, 2009 09:29 PM
Good post. Food for thought.
I dont think most folks here are allowing CCW to rule their lives. Its just a subject we all dig and this place is like a support group. We are a minority you know. LOL
Thanks for sharing that.
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April 9th, 2009 09:37 PM
1. I'm armed because I want to CONTINUE my relationships with family members.
Unless I have a schedule of armed home invasions, I'd carry.
No one at a funeral would KNOW that I was armed.
2. If Jesus were here today, he'd probably carry a Kimber...
3. One MUST follow the law....not to do so would be extremely foolish.
4. My CCW does not control my life anymore than friends, clothes, my job, etc., I take it all in stride...it's all part of the package of life. When we attend church, I carry, but I don't really think about it any more than my cell phone...just another tool to make life a little easier.
Thanks for the post...have a great day!
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April 9th, 2009 09:39 PM
Its a complex subject for most. So here is my take.
I spent my childhood growing up smaller then everyone, and thus was a target of bullies. Now some might be jumping to conclusions here, but let me finish first.
I had one bully that atfirst started fights with me, after several times knocking him out or hurting him badly when he would start these he turned to sneak attacks. By sneak attacks I mean he would walk up behind me and stab me with what ever was handy. I have more then dozens of scars on my back, neck, arms and such. So many so that the doctors lost count after a year. Now most of them are not deep. I spent two years being stabbed by a bully, and the whole time the teacher and principal and I do quote said "I would just have to learn to deal with it".
Now at the end of middle school he turned up the violence, I landed in the hospital with a skull fracture.
So that was my first lesson in you are the only one responsible with defending yourself.
My lessons continued after that, some truly scary such as a stalker, later killed by police when they tried to arrest him for a series of murders.
Other times it was death threats because my family was in law enforcement, others because people were racist bigots against me.
So to the subject of CCW, I do let it affect were I go, but only because I have had my life on the line too many times to rest my defence on others.
April 9th, 2009 09:51 PM
Excellent post! It is important to remember the true priorities in life, and I happen to agree with yours. However at this point in my life I would have to say that my right to carry has come to mean more than simple self-defense. The reason is that to me it is now in large part symbolic of my stand against where our society is going. I remember 30 years ago there were men and women of all political parties whom I disagreed with -- but whom I was still able to respect. I knew -- not just thought -- knew (sometimes from personal association) that many of these might disagree with me on how something should be done -- but they were always interested in the good of the country. There have always been snakes in politics. But years ago there were still a large number of people of character who were SERVING in public office.
Now, things are different. They are almost all snakes. And they are mainly interested in their personal power and the power and wealth of their cronies. We now seem to be in a headlong rush towards destruction. Our government is becoming more and more powerful, and more and more intrusive. And I believe many are actively and deliberately attempting to destroy our economy and our way of life in order to increase their personal power.
Prior to August of 2008 I never owned a handgun. I regularly voted in elections. I watched the news and read the news and tried to remain an informed citizen. But I never wrote my representatives -- either on the local, state, or national level. I never attended political rallies of any sort. I went about the business of making a living and raising my family and improving my neighborhood.
Now. Now. NOW -- I have gone off the deep end. I have been pushed into becoming a raving lunatic (according to others of a different view) by just watching the news. I write and call my representatives so much they are learning my name. I am attending rallies and "tea parties". I have joined the NRA. I have started trying to actively convert friends, family, and neighbors to Christianity. I now have a CHL and not one handgun but several. I am talking to friends, family, neighbors, and total strangers about where our society is going -- and why I think total disaster may await us.
The fact that the opposition -- those rushing so fast towards "security by the nanny state", slavery, and socialism --- list among those things they despise most the people who not only believe in 2A rights, but practice them, is just more fuel to my fire.
I also fear that things will become more and more dangerous as our economy disintegrates.
So now I carry. Everywhere. All the time. And I try to persuade others to do likewise. Not because it is more important than God or family or friends. But because it is necessary and it is part of a way to take a stand.
Sorry about the rant -- I think I may have gotten wound up and pushed some of my own buttons....
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April 9th, 2009 10:06 PM
I carry a firearm because it makes me safer but being armed goes far beyond the safety issue for me. It's a way for me to say I have a deep respect and appreciation for the US Constitution. It's a way for me to say that the founding fathers got it right the first time even though some judges and politicos are determined to undo it all. It's a way for me to express my feeling about the inherent dignity of every person.
No, carrying isn't the most important thing in my life. Most of us would wonder about someone who said carrying was more important than their God or their family. Actually there should be no conflicts if we follow the wisdom of "always carry, never tell". BTW, if it's not a prohibited location; school, public building, etc. I'M ARMED. No exceptions.
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April 9th, 2009 10:06 PM
My family or friends would never ask me to disarm.
Not a church goer.
Concealed means concealed.
April 9th, 2009 10:07 PM
My permit is much like my gun. A tool. No more, no less. I am one of the folks who does not carry 24/7, but does carry often. I respect the wishes of my family and do not make an issue out of carrying a weapon. In most cases, I take kind of a don't ask don't tell attitude. My weapon, when I carry, is well concealed and I don't let on my armed status.
May I complement you on an extremely thoughtful and poignant post. It caused me a degree of introspection, and I appreciate it.
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April 9th, 2009 10:15 PM
I think it is all about good moral character; my values, beliefs, integrity, principles and priorities dictate how I live my life. My life is my number one priority, and yes, I carry to protect it.
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April 9th, 2009 10:23 PM
Important as winning a battle. A battle of life and death. Know thy enemy. The enemy is ruthless and without remorse. You're on the battlefield since the day you were born. Do you meet your enemy with equal force, or with open arms and empty hands? Your enemy does not take prisoners.
Importance of CCW To You?
April 9th, 2009 10:26 PM
Originally Posted by NYcarry
It's not a big deal to me, it's just like the stuff in my wallet, stuff I have on me.
April 9th, 2009 10:28 PM
CCW is definetly not on my high priority list. It doesn't define who I am. However, I truely believe it is my right and the Lord above would have us protect ourselves and those around us. I carry not because I can but because I should. I love myself and those around me.
Good post though. Something to stop and think about.
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April 9th, 2009 11:06 PM
To each his own. I understand and respect your position. Everybody should take a hard look at their priorities in life.
Personally, I do not ask those around me for permission to carry. Most people do not know that I do carry. If by some chance that I am asked not to carry during a specific event, then I would honor that request by either not carrying or not attending, depending on the event.
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April 9th, 2009 11:16 PM
The most important thing to me is protecting my wife and kids, so I do carry every day. I feel I am able to conceal my weapon well, so no one else knows I have it anyway...it hasn't become an issue at work or any family function we attend.
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include thier own government --George Washington
April 9th, 2009 11:43 PM
Sometimes it's impossible to carry. It's awfully tough to conceal a pistol while wearing swim trunks and going down a waterslide. I'm not going to stop enjoying life because I can't carry. I carry when I can but, once in a while, I just can't.
I don't ask people for permission, though. That's none of their business.
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