This is a discussion on The Official "Restroom Thread" within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by IADC43 Always restroom CCW in packs of 3 post one CCWer at the door, the second CCWer with his back to the ...
IF someone pulls a gun on you.... turn around and urinate on their leg, and while they are disgusted at you doing this and looking at their now wet leg, draw your gun.
I started using the stalls years ago when a drunk peed on my buddy's boots at a bar urinal. You should have seen that fight. Since then it just makes me feel better about my personal space.
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In a training video we watched of a restroom mugging the guy was using the urinal and the mugger came up behind him and kicked him square in the middle of the back. The victim, both hands being used slammed his whole body into the urninal. Totally dazed and confused, head hit the wall and ultimately fell down and continued getting the sh*t beat out of him. The victim was left bleeding profusely and with urine all over him. This video was shot in a Las Vegas casino, so for all you guys that think they can not video public restrooms, next time your in vegas look up.
Yet another good reason to carry in front (crossdraw). The grip is right over your other "weapon" and ready to surprise the hell out of whomever may try to surprise you.
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Originally Posted by IADC43 View Post
Always restroom CCW in packs of 3
post one CCWer at the door, the second CCWer with his back to the far wall, scanning the entrance and the window, if there is one. CCWer #3 uses the facilities.
Rotate the tactical positions as needed for total team relief. wash up, high five each other and exit in the wedge formation.
or just go in and use the facilities as needed.
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I've always tried to stay aware of any movement behind me while at a public urinal. I'd rather risk missing the toilet than having someone come up behind me.
Haven't gone so far as always using the stalls but it's certainly worth considering.
I can't believe we are still talking about toilet training for concealed carriers.
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it has pretty much digressed down to mockery...
Whatever you do.... don't drop your gun into the urinal.
In fact, I would even go so far as to say it's better with 4 CCWers, that way you can "clear" the restroom first using a standard stack formation. Any potential BG can be cuffed by the 3rd person in the stack. Should the BG turn out not to be a BG, he can be released AFTER everyone on the team has taken care of business.
Last edited by CJ810; September 24th, 2009 at 08:56 PM. Reason: Grammar/OCD
As I was visiting the Wally World rest room, I looked at my weapon in an OWB holster laying on my pants, and wondered, If the anti gun nut next stall over sees this, what problems could it cause me?What things could I do to mitigate them or even prevent them. Most restrooms have stalls with open bottoms. If you can see the shoe of the person in the next stall, you can see the weapon there also. What do you folks on this forum do with the weapon during the necessary trips to the facilities? Even if you do off load prior to departing the home, an all day shopping excursion can necessitate a trip to the out house. What I have decided to do is 1) always use the handicapped stall because it has a rail above the tissue dispenser. 2) After securing the door, I withdraw the weapon from the holster and lay it upside down on the paper dispenser, if the rail is high enough to hold it in place. If the rail above the dispenser is high enough I will lay it down in an upright position. What ever position will hold it most securely. If there is no rail, I need suggestions. In this day and age, I can even see someone in the stall next to me seeing this weapon and trying to snag it from me having caught me with my pants down. What do DC.com members do when they must use the facilities and a private bathroom is not available?
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