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Can You Carry While Drinking At A Bar?

This is a discussion on Can You Carry While Drinking At A Bar? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; In AZ you can't carry in any place that serves (open container) liquor. Wouldn't seem a good idea anyhow to toting and tipping at the ...

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    In AZ you can't carry in any place that serves (open container) liquor. Wouldn't seem a good idea anyhow to toting and tipping at the same time. At least in my house, tequila leads to bad decisions, which have to be repaid when sober.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bandit383 View Post
    Point being...some do not know their limits.

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    IMHO, they should not drink. This has nothing to do with carrying a firearm for self defense.

    Some people cannot act like adults when they imbibe. IMO they should not drink.

    I am an adult.

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    Illegal in Michigan.
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    Well, I gave up drinking many moons ago after getting popped for a DUI. In moderation, I suppose its Ok if the gun is truly concealed and you don't get stupid drunk. Oh, one more thing'. If its legal in your location.
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    The law quoted for Tennessee was correct, however it is only one of several laws involved. In Tennessee you cannot carry a gun in an establishment that serves alcoholic beverages, period. They are working on a law to allow carry in a resturaunt that has a bar, but you cannot imbibe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agave View Post
    As a former waiter, I'd refuse to serve alcohol to anyone that was open carrying. It'd be irresponsible of me. Now, I personally wouldn't do it, but I have no problem with anyone having a drink while carrying.
    If you have no problem with anyone having a drink while carrying - then why would you not serve a person OCing?

    If I were a waiter, I would not serve anyone that I knew was carrying. But I don't understand your statement.

    There is no good reason to drink alcohol period if carrying - NONE.

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    The law varies from state to state, but I believe common sense dictates that alcohol and guns don't mix. Too much chance of something going wrong, and if you shoot someone, even if you are justified, any alcohol in your system will be a huge factor against you. It's just not worth the risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadhawg View Post
    The law varies from state to state, but I believe common sense dictates that alcohol and guns don't mix. Too much chance of something going wrong, and if you shoot someone, even if you are justified, any alcohol in your system will be a huge factor against you. It's just not worth the risk.
    Again, can you cite a case? IMO this is just urban legend.

    I will not give up my right to defend myself, and those with me, just because I have a drink. Those of you that choose to do so are welcome to your choice. Those who choose not to drink are also welcome. I will do both, it is perfectly legal where I am and there is even a recent case of a SD fatal shooting in a bar found to be "justified."

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    I have no interest in drinking while carrying.


    Louisiana:
    It is unlawful to possess a firearm while on the premises of an alcoholic beverage outlet, which is defined as any commercial establishment in which alcoholic beverages are sold in individual servings for consumption on the premises.

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    The permit shall be revoked under any of the following circumstances: (1) the blood alcohol reading of the permittee is .05 per cent or greater
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    In SC we have sort of an cloudy set of inter related law clauses that the State AG interprets to mean we cannot "Carry into an establishment that sells Alcohol for consumption on the premises". So most of us don't feel like being the test case for it since he is so adamant about it.

    It's complicated and well documented in several threads here if you want to research it.

    There is also a specific law about discharging a firearm while intoxicated as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyKen View Post
    Again, can you cite a case? IMO this is just urban legend.

    I will not give up my right to defend myself, and those with me, just because I have a drink. Those of you that choose to do so are welcome to your choice. Those who choose not to drink are also welcome. I will do both, it is perfectly legal where I am and there is even a recent case of a SD fatal shooting in a bar found to be "justified."

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    Are you requesting links for people consuming alcohol involved in shootings or for people consuming alcohol involved in shootings that faced criminal or civil litigation?

    These cases are best researched in a legal data base. I assure you they will not make the news for eveyday web links to be posted.

    People will make excuses for anything they desire to do or not do. After reading all the comments on this board, I am going to encourage our law makers not to allow carry and alcohol consumption. This is crazy. I DO NOT want my family near ANYONE consuming and CARRYING, PERIOD. If I am dining somewhere and I notice someone carrying that is consuming I will notify the manager, call the police and excuse myself and my family from that establishment. I do not care if it happens to be legal your state or not. You want to have a beer with that pizza? Cool, leave the gun at home.

    Here is one. Had it had been a non LEO the outcome would have been much different. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/17/ny...rssnyt&emc=rss

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyboyLDB View Post
    Are you requesting links for people consuming alcohol involved in shootings or for people consuming alcohol involved in shootings that faced criminal or civil litigation?

    These cases are best researched in a legal data base. I assure you they will not make the news for eveyday web links to be posted.

    People will make excuses for anything they desire to do or not do. After reading all the comments on this board, I am going to encourage our law makers not to allow carry and alcohol consumption. This is crazy. I DO NOT want my family near ANYONE consuming and CARRYING, PERIOD. If I am dining somewhere and I notice someone carrying that is consuming I will notify the manager, call the police and excuse myself and my family from that establishment. I do not care if it happens to be legal your state or not. You want to have a beer with that pizza? Cool, leave the gun at home.

    Here is one. Had it had been a non LEO the outcome would have been much different. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/17/ny...rssnyt&emc=rss
    This is the best case you could find to cite???!!!

    By Wednesday morning, the detective was fully exonerated. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and the police unions rallied to his defense, as did the editorial pages of the city’s two main tabloid newspapers, and Mr. Kelly not only restored Detective Davison to full duty, he praised his actions.

    “At grave personal risk, Detective Ivan Davison took appropriate and courageous police action to end an imminent threat of death or serious injury to himself and others,” Mr. Kelly said in a statement, identifying the officer by name for the first time. “He demonstrated what many have come to expect of New York City police officers, on duty or off — that is, selfless dedication to duty.”
    I think you made my case for me. The cop was off duty, made a good arrest while defending himself against a punk who shot at him with an illegal gun. Oh yea, he had had a couple of drinks and he was able to perform just fine.

    And this is from the most anti gun, anti cop, NY Times. You have got to be kidding me. And then you go and spout such anti gun vitrol.

    If you ever come to Las Vegas you need to bring your own personal police with you (ours know better) and stay out of all bars, restaurants and casinos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicksta038 View Post
    Just wondering if your spending a night out on the town having a few drinks are you still allowed to carry?
    My question is... Why the hell would you want to? Drinking and firing would be looked on in most states in the same way they look at drinking and driving.

    Hmmm... Maybe you can get a designated shooter when you are out on the town with your buddies.
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    In MN, It's the behavior of the individual, not the location that is the limiting factor. We have a specific crime for Carrying under the influence (.04 BAC).

    That said, I have been 100% successful stopping at 1 drink. A couple is too nebulous.

    If you have ANY alcohol in your system, plan on the prosecutor making it an issue. That doesn't remove your right to self defense but it should inform your decisions.
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    I have said it here before --- guns and booze do not mix. When one drinks ones judgement becomes impaired. One reflexes are slowed. Therefore one should not drink and carry a gun. Especially in a bar.

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