VA Gold Cup: Carry or No Carry?
A question for folks in Northern Virginia. I am trying to decide whether or not the Virginia Gold Cup race is off-limits for carry. It is an outdoor venue; during the races there are so-called tavern tents on the premises that sell alcohol. Looking at the laws, though, I get this:
The actual definitions of "club" and "restaurant" in §4.1-100 do not seem to apply, at least as my reading of it goes.
Code of Virginia
§ 18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry.
J3. No person shall carry a concealed handgun onto the premises of any restaurant or club as defined in §4.1-100 for which a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption has been granted by the Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Board under Title 4.1 of the Code of Virginia[...]
I have no idea whether Great Meadow, the actual venue, is posted, but in Virginia that just means I have to leave if asked or be charged with trespassing.
Re: Asking the Commonwealth's Attorney
I kinda went this route one time and it took months and months to get a useful answer.
Originally Posted by f8lranger4x4
I first tried getting an opinion from the Virginia Attorney General's office on whether the VA National Guard run "Commonwealth Challenge" program, and its activities, would be considered a school when considering concealed carry. The reply from the AG's office was (paraphrasing here) that I am just a citizen and the AG is the lawyer for the governor and the state. They don't give out opinions to citizens. Yes, I do pay taxes that pay the AG's salary...
So I went to my state delegate and he was very helpful and supportive. He requested an opinion from the AG and he got a different answer - about 5 months later, and months too late for me.
If anyone has occasion to interact with the Commonwealth Challenge program, they are NOT a school according to the AG.
The Challenge program takes in kids who have quit school, or been kicked out, and puts them in a residential "boot camp" program where they take classes, learn self-discipline and other important skills, and earn a GED. They must be willing volunteers, must complete the residential portion, and have a job to go to upon completion. Many go to the military, which can be a good thing.
The Commonwealth Challenge program is conducted by the VA National Guard, there are similar programs in other states, and is located on Camp Pendleton in Virginia Beach.
I also contacted the man in charge of Camp Pendleton and asked what the policy is on personal firearms on the camp. First he asked why I thought I needed one and I pointed out driving all the way across the state and staying in motels in strange areas. Then I pointed out that the camp is state property and the legislature has reserved the right to make all decisions about possession of handguns statewide. He grudgingly gave me "permission".
You can certainly ask the Commonwealth's Attorney; Great meadow is in Fauquier County. Good luck.