Traveling with a CCW - My First Time

Traveling with a CCW - My First Time

This is a discussion on Traveling with a CCW - My First Time within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I left NC for air travel to Utah and Michigan earlier this week. Both states accept my NC CHP. Checked in at the airlines desk ...

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    Traveling with a CCW - My First Time

    I left NC for air travel to Utah and Michigan earlier this week. Both states accept my NC CHP.

    Checked in at the airlines desk in NC and discreetly told them I had an unloaded weapon in my checked luggage. Sadly, some nosy middle-schooler standing in line with his mommy kept his googly eyes on the process the minute he saw me whispering to the clerk. The airline clerk was nonchalant, but did ask me to open my COM safe. The kid's eyes about popped out of his head as he tried to espy my rig.

    I opened the safe, completed the orange card, placed it back in the safe, and relocked it. I was directed to a "special" luggage screening area I had used once before with a set of golf clubs. The two bored TSA goobers jumped up, made me stand behind a line, and got all antsy when I said I had an unloaded weapon in my bag. The male goober asked for the key to my COM safe. I had to stand several paces back and winced as he tried to force the key in the lock the wrong way. I told him there was nothing to be nervous about and explained the key would work just fine if he took a moment to put it in the right way.

    While he performed a clueless fondle of Mr Kimber, the female goober was busy rifling my bag, tossing my suit and shirts about and generally making a mess of things. She then started to swab down every part of my bag and the COM safe with separate fabric swatches to analyze for residue. She comletely overlooked the full box of Speer GoldDots and my knife in a very visible mesh compartment. I know I was legal, but it's funny how she was studiously ogling my shaving cream while missing knives and bullets.

    They finally stuffed everything back in, I handed them the TSA lock for the outside closure, and went to the gate.

    Got to Utah just fine. Rearmed in my rental car that was in a quiet place in the garage. Drove a long way to my hotel and went down to eat, still armed. Everything was fine. Got up for breakfast, put on my SuperTuck, Mr Kimber, and just pulled a black t-shirt over it all for the serve-yourself breakfast bar.

    I have meetings today, then another long drive and another hotel stay. So far so good. I will be in Michigan (another state that recogizes my CHP) this weekend.

    I am new to this, and I just wanted to share with other n00bs here so you can know what to expect. Updates will come after the multi-state trip concludes next week.

    BTW, Mrs Mac (another new NC CHP holder) has been giving me ominous warnings for over a week since she learned I was going to travel with my rig. I hope to heaven I can say, "I told you so..."


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    What airline did you travel? Southwest doesn't physically handle the firearms. Sounds almost like the agent inspecting your firearm just wanted to hold the thing.

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    Thanks, I occasionally fly and although new to CCW, I am a little reluctant to do it for fear of complications and the crap you can be subject to...alsa I'm curious what airline you used? Hopefully, your travels go well.
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    I am on Northwest/Delta.

    Yeah, I could tell the TSA dude knew nothing about firearms simply by the way he handled it. I think he was trying to look like he was "inspecting it" or something. In any case, I felt there were no onerous complications so far. In fact. the special service of two dedicated TSA wonks got me through screening very quickly.

    If it goes like this every time, I would cc as long as I was in a state that recognized my CHP.

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    OK, What is a COM Safe?
    Weapons list suppressed...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by toaster View Post
    OK, What is a COM Safe?
    Probably referring to a center of mass gun safe.

    In Car Gun Safe
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    Quote Originally Posted by toaster View Post
    OK, What is a COM Safe?
    here ya go:
    In Car Gun Safe

    good write up on the air travel, I wish more people would do this so more people are seen exercising their rights to defend themselves and the people working at the airports would get used to it
    ...and don't worry about the goobers (translation=) that spy your rig, I prefer making it visible for people to see just for the fun of it
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    MadMac,

    Thanks for sharing and glad you are staying safe while out of your home state. I do wonder if you could refuse to hand your keys over to TSA and instead offer to open the safe for them? Anyone know if you can refuse them the keys?
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    If you refuse to cooperate they can keep you from flying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaRedneck View Post
    MadMac,

    Thanks for sharing and glad you are staying safe while out of your home state. I do wonder if you could refuse to hand your keys over to TSA and instead offer to open the safe for them? Anyone know if you can refuse them the keys?
    Yes you can refuse, at which point if your lucky the most they will do is refuse to let you board the airplane!

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    Don't hassle the TSA folks, they can make your day very inconvenient.
    If you want scrutiny, ask for a supervisor and have a copy of the TSA rules with you.
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    Just remember, while this may be your first rodeo with traveling with firearms the TSA agents deal with thousands every day.

    Those "goobers" are subjected to some of the dumbest things you can think of so cut them a little slack. I'd be willing to bet that she didn't "miss" your ammo and knife, my guess is that with a gun already declared and the ammo in a factory box all was good.

    Traveling with firearms isn't as bad as most make it out to be, just be prepared to take some extra time and keep smiling.

    If you think eyes got big when a pistol was seen, you should see (and hear) what happens when they drag out a AR with laser and assorted goodies installed.

    For those of you that remember those E.F. Hutton commercials on TV you get the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Bullseye View Post
    Just remember, while this may be your first rodeo with traveling with firearms the TSA agents deal with thousands every day.

    Those "goobers" are subjected to some of the dumbest things you can think of so cut them a little slack. I'd be willing to bet that she didn't "miss" your ammo and knife, my guess is that with a gun already declared and the ammo in a factory box all was good.
    true....but one time I checked in my HK USP Full size 45, walked around to the TSA screening area to "oversee" my bag's inspection, it went through the machine came out and they sat it on a table for further inspection; as they went through my bag's contents one of the guy's eyes got big and one of those Oh ---- faces was expressed, he looks at his co-worker and says, "look, its a gun...I didn't even see it (on the xray machine)"
    whether that was machine malfunction or operator error I don't know but you can never tell

    Quote Originally Posted by NC Bullseye View Post
    Traveling with firearms isn't as bad as most make it out to be, just be prepared to take some extra time and keep smiling.


    Quote Originally Posted by NC Bullseye View Post
    If you think eyes got big when a pistol was seen, you should see (and hear) what happens when they drag out a AR with laser and assorted goodies installed.

    For those of you that remember those E.F. Hutton commercials on TV you get the idea.
    I need to try that sometime with my AR or AK
    and yes, I remember the commercials
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    Hell, I have to admit I have one, but I forgot it's name is Center of Mass!! Getting old here.
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    I am sure the TSA see some crazy stuff; however, let me give you a brief litany of why I still call the TSA folks goobers:

    - At this same airport, I had a TSA ID checker refuse to let me through screening with a retired military ID. This was at a time when NC was still giving out driver's licenses to illegal aliens. She said she would accept a DL, but the military ID was a show-stopper. I asked to speak to the supervisor. He told me to just show my DL. I asked what the TSA policy was for the military ID. He didn't bother to look it up, ask someone else, or make a phone call. He just shrugged. This was the SUPERVISOR.

    - I have asked what the policy is for everything from cork screws to cigar cutters. Basically, the folks at this particular airport seem to just wing it and make up rules as they go. I have never gotten an "official" answer.

    I respect the actual people who try to perform this tough job. I just witness that their training is woefully inadequate, and their dutes poorly defined. Why would the one goober feel he needed to fondle Mr Kimber? If he was actually going to verify it was unloaded, he should have racked the slide and peeked inside. Instead, he simply twirled it around in his hand a couple times, evaluated the heft, muzzled his partner, then put it back in the safe. He may see some crazy things, but his actions prove proper handgun handling was never one of them.

    For Pete's sake, these guys should have some training, and if they are unsure of the rules, they should (as a minimum) know where to look it up.

    /rant off

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