My Brother Almost "Outy

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    My Brother Almost "Outy

    Today was my one day off. I decided to stop by my younger brother's place of employment. Despite the fact that I've lived in Las Vegas almost 26 years I never have visited him at work. So I thought that it would be a nice thing to visit him.

    He works on the "Strip" here in Vegas. He works in one of the major strip properties. He was very surprised to see me to say the least. It wasn't too busy so we talked awhile about what his job involved. That went well until he started introducing me to his co-workers. I met each of them and things went as well as could be expected. They mentioned that we looked so much alike. What do you expect? We're brothers.

    At one point it became a little busy. The other employees there left the immediate area to take care of business. Then it got somewhat "interesting" to say the least. He's my emergency contact so he asked to see my carry permit. So I pulled my wallet out and let him see it.

    A little later my brothers co-workers returned to the desk. He then proclaimed, "Did you know my brother was carrying..." until I gave him a sudden look of "DON'T YOU DARE!" by the sound of my voice somewhat loudly! He never realized that the only reason I told him about my permit was in the event of an emergency.

    He thought it was "neat" that I had acquired my carry permit. I asked him to call me when he got off work. When he eventually did call me I made sure to very diplomatically tell him to NEVER even hint that I carry a firearm.

    Long story short, I very tactfully asked him to tell NO ONE that I carry a gun. He never realized that until I explained that to him in more detail. He is the one person who needs to know. He's the only other family I have in Las Vegas other than my 74 year old Mother.

    Yes, you can say I had a strange day today!
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    It pays to be discrete.

    My wife and kids know but other than that almost no one else knows.

    I have some friends that CC permit and they know I have mine. But I never know if/when they are carrying and they don't know if I am. We just know that we all have permits.

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    I certainly would not want anyone to know I carry unless I trusted them to keep it to themselves. That is one reason why I think OC is a bad idea...but that is another story.

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    My family and all my friends know that I carry, but on the other hand, I also know that they all carry as well!!!
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    My business partners and wife and kids know. They know not to tell anyone.
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    I try to be very discreet, also, but I'm a fairly secretive guy about most personal things. Information wants to be free, after all, so I keep it locked up pretty tight.

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    I just started CC today, finally got my permit yesterday. My wife and my Dad are the only two that know right now. I'm not sure what to do with my kids. I have a 7yr. old daughter and two boys 4 and 1. I'm not going to freely offer the fact that I'm carrying, but when they tackle me sometime I know that the cat will be out of the bag. I'm just trying to figure out how to handle the conversation so they understand the importance of keeping quiet about it.

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    Im just curious of why so discrete of your chl? I have always believed that by being more open about the subject that sooner or later more people will feel more normal about chl holders. I dont see what the big deal is. If you are legally able and have a permit then why all the hush. Can someone explain the pros and cons of your friends knowing of your chl.
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    I was wondering the same thing. I don't go out of my way to let people know i'm carrying but seems that maybe people would be more accepting of it if they knew that "good people" carry. My family knows I carry but they don't know when I have it.

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    Personal choice, I think. It's come up in conversation and I don't mind telling someone I know.

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    Family and coworkers know. Guy on the street does not. Well my kids don't know, but my wife does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachgry View Post
    Can someone explain the pros and cons of your friends knowing of your chl.
    One might be that someone would mention it at the wrong time. Picture this: You and a friend/relative/co-worker are at name-a-place, and suddenly it's being robbed. Your friend/relative/co-worker looks at you and says something along the lines of: "You've got a gun, do something!"

    Another might be that someone who knows decides they want to see/touch it and asks within sight/earshot of some other co-worker. Now the circle of who knows you're carrying just grew exponentionally, and you have no idea who knows you're carrying. How long before that info ends up in a BG's ear, and you're a target/threat when he plans something wherever you happen to be?

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    Plus, people just freak out. Imagine his brother told his coworkers and all of a sudden the cops show up. One of the coworkers freaked and call them. Although I do not like the fact that guns are taboo right now and he was not breaking the law since he had his permit, I personally just do not want to have to deal with the police, for any reason. You just never know what might happen. They might want to take your gun or cuff you while they talk to you and you have to do what they say.

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    You are right some might freak out but thats my point. If more people carried and more people knew that more people were carrying then maybe the stigma of (guns = bad guy) will go away. I realize that its a personal decision wether to tell or not but to me keeping it a secret will not help in makeing people realize that there are alot of good men and woman that are carrying and that guns are not the problem instead its the bg that use them. Also look at it this way, (by keeping it a secret ) Think what it would be like if you had to sneak to the polling box to vote? I mean its your right to vote isnt it? What if you had to wear a disguise so that no one would know who you were. I mean you dont want to offend anyone that thinks otherwise? Also, Freedom of speach what if you had to disguise who you were in order to say what you felt? I mean thats your right isnt it? Well you see where im going. There was a time when people couldnt say what they wanted and couldnt vote even though it was there right to do so. but i dont recall the history books saying the people voted but didnt tell or disguised to speak thier mind. My point here is that we need to stand up and not be in fear of what someone else might think and the more we do this the better it will be on all of us.

    What i have wrote can be spinned several ways but i hope that yall will feel the same. Thanks..
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    +1 on all your points zachgry.

    In all of my social circles I am very open about the fact that I carry all the time. I do however have to be discrete at work because while there are no polocies prohibiting me from doing so, if many of my coworkers knew that I carried, that would quickly change. I work in an environment where we as an organization will go out of our way to be PC. A dificult place for a conservative and practical individual to work to say the least.

    All this to say that I believe there are a lot of benefits to being open about the fact that you carry, but you have to know your audience when you discuss the topic. Like my dad always said "Trust no one and live."
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