This is a discussion on my CPL saved me from a ticket!... within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by tns0038 ........... I suspect that’s the reason they put you in cuffs. Citizens who are upset and outraged do things they normally ...
I think the police are extra jumpy right now... what with all the cop shootings in the news.. whether or not there are really any more than usual or the news is just sensationalizing it is a topic for another discussion!
the thing is, I was cuffed after being removed from the vehicle and being patted down.
At that point, there was zero threat to them.
I was more scared for my fiance who was then sitting in the car w/ a weapon...
Things could have turned out much worse for us. I've heard stories of cops backing away while drawing as soon as they find out you are armed or have weapon...precautionary, yes, but jeezus, there is no threat being posed in that or this situation.
Some coworkers suggested I file a complaint for being cuffed...I'm not sure that would be inappropriate in this situation, but I'm tempted to just put it behind me.
You have to understand, YOU know that you are not a threat, THEY don't. Remember, you were angry enough to drive the way you did, how would they know how long it takes you to cool down?
My point is just because someone has a gun either on them in a holster or secured in a vehicle is no reason for a LEO to panic and do a pat down and clear the weapon.I have read of to many incidences here and other places where the officer upon finding out the driver is armed basically overreacts JUST because he happens to be armed.I would not panic and get scared if I knew someone around me was armed and so why should they?
I think you're all missing the point, it's what he did prior to being pulled over combined with the permit that probably resulted in the LEO's actions.
If you're barely over the speed limit and get pulled over, no need for cuffs.
If the light just turned red as you went under it, no need for cuffs.
Driving like a bat out of he&*, dead stop for pedestrians, take off like a madman, maybe. But that was their call wasn't it?
Context, people, context. There is no "one size fits all" situation for being pulled over with a CHL. It all depends on the circumstances.
If he genuinely waved "hi" to the LEOs and they pulled him over and cuffed him, then he would have a legitimate complaint.
My only thing is that through the progression of this thread it went from "driving a little faster than should have" to "driving like a bat out of hell." A picture is being painted of someone swerving in and out of traffic with their head out the window like a furious mad man (okay maybe a tad excessive picture there, but still), when it was not originally explained like that.
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No indication of speed given. Squeeling tires perhaps? Okay, an assumption. Then:I back up, go around the *******, and speed away
Again no indication of how fast....needless to say, I was kind of peeved, certainly driving faster than necessary
We're all reading his side of the story. Think about it, if it were you would you say, "..I sped away burning rubber, jammed on my brakes for the stupid pedestrians in the crosswalk, then bolted again." Of course not.
I'm not crucifying anyone here, but there was obviously probable cause to be pulled over. And then the rest of the story.
so if your lady was driving your vehicle and they ran your tags, will she then be asked to step out and cuffed while your vehicle is searched? I am so glad that our permits are tied to our drivers license rather than our car tags
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