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    Traveling by vehicle from AZ to WA

    for LFI II with Mas and I want to carry my weapons, (870 Tactical and several handguns) can I carry with a AZ CCW, can I open carry, can I have my guns locked and boxed in my car?

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    WA state is technically and open cary state, but do to the lack of knowledge and the general attitude of people in the state it's highly recomended that you don't. As far as the guns in the car, WA state allows you to CC in your car with a permit, last time I checked WA and AZ had recp. check hand WA State Licensing: Firearms
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    I have to concur with 769, while Washington State law is fairly gun friendly, it's people are not, especialy on the west side of the castcades. Come over to the east side and people are a little more friendly. I still have not had the courage to OC over hear and can only recal once in 15 years that I have seen someone else do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threefeathers View Post
    for LFI II with Mas and I want to carry my weapons, (870 Tactical and several handguns) can I carry with a AZ CCW, can I open carry, can I have my guns locked and boxed in my car?
    Your AZ permit is not honored by Washington. So in your vehicle your guns must be unloaded. You can carry an unloaded gun on your person in your vehicle, but it cannot be concealed on your person, which is kind of hard to do so I would recommend not carrying a gun on your person in your vehicle. The gun can be stored in your vehicle anywhere concealed or open. If you leave a gun in your vehicle it must be concealed and your vehicle must be locked, which is common sense anyway.

    You can open carry in Washington without a permit. It generally is not a problem. I open carry 99% of the time and have had one LEO encounter which actually resulted in a very good relationship between the restaurant that it happened at and our open carry group. I would not hesitate to open carry in Washington state at all - and don't hesitate myself to do it.

    There is a summary of gun laws in a pamphlet in a sticky on the Washington forum at opencarry.org. There is one mistake in the pamphlet, though. The pamphlet states that a gun must be enclosed in a case to transport it in Washington without a CPL and that is not true. Google "RCW" and look at RCW Title 9 chapter 41. Everything is in there except for the law which states that long guns must remain unloaded in vehicles even with a CPL.

    Everything I have stated is valid in Washington state only and does not cover transportation in states in between. You can either follow each states' laws in between or transport your firearms according to FOPA (18 USC 926a).

    One more thing - there is a big argument about carrying a firearm on Washington State Ferries without a CPL. Is a ferry a vehicle or not? We haven't got a clear decision, so I would not carry a loaded firearm on a ferry without a CPL. I open carry on the ferries because I do have a CPL.

    Need anything else, feel free to PM me.

    Washington state reciprocity is here:
    http://www.atg.wa.gov/page.aspx?id=7772

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenSix9ine View Post
    WA state is technically and open cary state, but do to the lack of knowledge and the general attitude of people in the state it's highly recomended that you don't.
    I disagree completely with the "highly recommended that you don't." There are plenty of us that open carry everywhere we go in Washington State and it isn't a problem the vast majority of the time. The time that it is a problem is due to LEO's attempting to coerce a person to conceal because of their personal views on open carry, not because of a legal issue.

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    I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice.

    Importation of "High Capacity" magzines for the various firearms you take with you, like your Glock or HK handgun, is a violation of CA law. I don't know the route you plan to take, but I just thought I'd give you a "head's up". Also, I don't believe AZ and NV have reciprocity.

    Good luck with your trip, as it's not one I'd willingly make. I hate to drive. Did I mention I have to drive to MT in November? We were going to Scotland, but "She Who Must Be Obeyed" decided on MT over Scotland.

    Oh well, at least I don't have to wear a dress. I mean a kilt.

    Have a safe trip and stay safe mate. I look forward to hearing all about your trip. Tell Mas and Gail hello for me.

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    Open carry is pretty safe even in Wester WA in rural areas but the bigger cities would not be a good idea. Any firearm is considered "concealed when inside a vehicle and a permit is required whether it is on your person or not so it is best to store it unloaded.

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    Some good info above, but to be totally clear:

    No loaded long guns in vehicles in WA ever (means nothing in chamber, attached mag, or attached to the firearm)
    No loaded handguns in a vehicle without valid CPL (car, taxi, bus, boat, moving RV, bicycle...) This means no open carry in a vehicle without CPL.

    RCW 9.41.050: Carrying firearms.

    You can get a non resident WA state CPL while you are here. They will mail it to your home and it takes 60 days. $55.25 Apply at any police station during normal hours. Might not make it for this trip, but next time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutz4utwo View Post
    You can get a non resident WA state CPL while you are here. They will mail it to your home and it takes 60 days. $55.25 Apply at any police station during normal hours. Might not make it for this trip, but next time!
    Or if you have a couple of months before you go (not sure about current wait times), take a class and get a UT CFP which WA recognizes.
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    The only people I know who OC here in western Washington (dumb idea in my opinion) have Permits (state permission slips). A lot of stores will escort you out if you try. The reason I think it's a dumb idea in general to open carry in public is the fact you are advertising to every BG with a gun that you have one that might be available if he wants to stick a gun in your neck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred View Post
    The only people I know who OC here in western Washington (dumb idea in my opinion) have Permits (state permission slips). A lot of stores will escort you out if you try. The reason I think it's a dumb idea in general to open carry in public is the fact you are advertising to every BG with a gun that you have one that might be available if he wants to stick a gun in your neck.
    Yeah. Right. The facts are it doesn't happen. Cops and uniformed security people get shot at because the bad guys don't want to be apprehended and go to jail. Open carriers do not get shot, nor do their guns get taken away from them. If that did happen, don't you think the media would be all over it. Yet you see it in the news about once a decade.

    Of course you will never see on the news how many BG's see the gun and move on to easier targets because they don't exactly come up to, introduce themselves and say, "Gee, your lucky your carrying that gun because I was going to roll you, but I changed my mind."

    I think it is a dumb idea not to carry a gun openly because the visible deterrent value far outweighs any remote chance of a bg wanting to confront a boldly armed citizen in the hopes of snatching his gun before he gets shot. Besides, no bg would want a Taurus (my gun) anyway

    And besides, I doubt thereare many unarmed bg's out there who are stupid enough to try to take a gun from a boldly armed citizen. And why would the bg use his gun to try to take my gun from me? He already has one. Why would he want another one at the risk of getting shot? Why wouldn't he just move to the next guy who isn't visibly armed and shake him down for money, credit cards, jewelry, other items of value that he could buy a guy safely on the street with?

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