This is a discussion on Falsely Accused within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by SelfDefense Polygraphs are only as good as the examiner. The questions must be formulated carefully and the basis questions are just as ...
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This is just one reason why you keep the fact that you CC to yourself & your spouse, period. The people who know I carry are limited to:
- My wife
- My CCW instructor
- A few close friends who also have CCWs & carry
The people who don't know I carry:
- My mother-in-law (my parents are deceased)
- My kids & grand kids
- None of my neighbors
- My minister (do I carry in Church? You bet I do!)
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Stay away from 'crazy' neighbors for starters. One can usually figure this out pretty quickly. We've lived near some 'crazies' down through the years and I stay away from them like the plague.
Had one neighbor who was always yelling out the window to kids and other neighbors...most people already knew he was way out there. If he ever called the cops (which he didn't), I would not have worried much about it. He was too well-known, and he didn't know about any weapons.
When it comes to SD talk in our neighborhood, I know who I can talk with, and the rest of them never hear from me, so I'm not worried about a neighbor making such a call. Actually, the OP's question is not something I even think about.
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It is virtually impossible to control autonomous bodily functions that are consistent with lying. The converse is that even when telling the truth those same measured metrics will trigger a false positive.
The polygraph is great for determining whether someone is lying. Unfortunately, the cost is that people telling the truth can be found to 'fail' the examination. For innocent people and those telling the truth a negative polygraph examination (passing) is very substantial evidence that one is telling the truth.
In the realm of national security, it is less important to deny a qualified candidate and very important to make sure an enemy does infiltrate.
First, this has NOTHING to do with psychology so their opinion is meaningless.Journal of Forensic Psychology Practice
Although the CQT [Control Question test] may be useful as an investigative aid and tool to induce confessions, it does not pass muster as a scientifically credible test. CQT theory is based on naive, implausible assumptions indicating (a) that it is biased against innocent individuals and (b) that it can be beaten simply by artificially augmenting responses to control questions
And yes, it is biased against innocent individuals. That is the point. It is virtually impossible to to pass a polygraph if you are lying.
And no, it can't be 'beaten' by 'artificially augmenting' response to control questions, whatever that is supposed to mean. Skilled examiners cannot be fooled by those tactics. Try anything like that and you will fail the test. Pretty simple.
The art of polygraph examination is an art, not a science. It is virtually impossible for a liar to pass a polygraph examination. Even if they have an hour of instruction.
And yes, the belief that people can fool a polygraph is opinion, not a scientific study. I have previously read the bogus claim of thirty minutes of instruction. They sell their method to unsuspecting dupes. I read it on the internet!
A neighbor of mine had their house catch fire and the fire dept suspected arson. A second neighbor called me about it and I qwent over and helped save the house.
That very day the arson investigator called and a third neighbor. He asked if we would take a polygraph. I said yes, the third neighbor said that he would have to speak to her lawyer.
Basically he told me she set the house on fire but he wouldnt be able to pin it on her.
This was back in 98 when Florida had all those wild fires.
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But believe what you like. Hopefully, people will research the issue and make their own determination. Better yet, simply tell the truth. And no matter what the opinion, the fact is that the polygraph is used extensively in national security. And, as others have noted, avoidance of a polygraph is not any evidence of innocence and criminals will avoid them. (Because they cannot be beat. Unless they take the thirty minute internet course!)
In any case, if you feel there is some other area of the scientific literature that has a more comprehensive assessment of the validity of the polygraph, feel free to point it out.