This is a discussion on Falsely Accused within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Blackeagle And the fact that he wasn't fired illustrates the problem with false positives. If you get positives all the time, and ...
However, the point is that if you pass the polygraph the negative examination wil correctly detect some not lying at around 95%.
This is important information and follow up tests will reduce that uncertainty significantly. Hardly useless and an important tool.
The article quoted even addresses the comparison with medical conditions that you challenged.
By definition, single-issue testing uses relevant questions that cover only one event. Because most polygraph techniques use between two and four relevant questions, each of the relevant questions would be a rewording of one central question. For example, for a single-issue technique with three relevant questions used to solve a bank robbery, they might be worded like this: Did you rob the ABC Bank last Thursday; Last Thursday did you rob the ABC bank on Main Street, and; Are you the one who robbed the ABC Bank last week?
Laboratory research investigating the accuracy of single-issue polygraph examinations has found a median accuracy of 86%. Field research suggests a slightly higher at 89%. Higher accuracy is associated with valid testing and scoring protocols, whereas lower accuracy tends to reflect departures from standard field practices.
Even with advancements in sensors and computers, there is little optimism of large increases in polygraph decision accuracy. However, as a diagnostic tool, the single-issue polygraph test fairs well against diagnostic methods in other fields. By way of comparison, single-issue polygraph decision accuracy is lower than decision accuracy when diagnosing appendicitis with ultrasound, but equivalent to the accuracy of diagnoses made for breast cancer using either ultrasound or MRI. Polygraph decisions are higher than the standard tools used by psychologists to diagnose personality disorders or depression.
I would have to rely on on the fact that if I tell the truth my story stays the same no matter how many times you ask me the details of the event. People who lie inadvertently change the details of their story when they tell the authorities, except maybe the most highly intelligent of criminal minds. With an absolutely squeaky clean background I think the authorities would be hard pressed to believe I I would suddenly threaten someone with my firearm. The person who did accuse me would then be arrested for filing a false police report and abuse.
Great post and something to think about....
Too bad it has to be interrupted (Hijacked) by a couple of seniors on the merits of a lie detector test.
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False police complaints happen all the time, just for revenge or other reasons. I don't think this scenario is "a bit out there" at all. I think it's a valid thing that could happen, and something to think about. Not to worry about, I never said I worried about it, just thought of it and wondered how it would all go down.
Thanks for all the comments and inputs everyone !
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I carry a 9mm in the front pocket of dress slacks. It prints all the time. I have walked up to a police officer to ask directions with no questions. I know it is a gun. To me it clearly looks like a pistol in my pocket. To everyone else, it looks like I have a cell phone and/or other junk in my poocket. Don't worry - be happy.
Very few people see the business end of my weapon. It has scotchlite strips glued to it. Good luck accusing me of brandishing if you miss those.
I put them on a long time ago after I dropped a weapon in tall grass, at night, while answering an audible alarm when I was doing private security. I tripped in a hole, I went one way and the gun another. Better than an ND trying to hold on to it (or would that be a rare AD?). What a mad scramble to find that darned gun.
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I think the LEOs will be able to sort out the difference between the sane permit holder and the looney next door. Especially with the gun description piece that many folks have mentioned.