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Knock on the door last evening by a well dressed man showing a badge and ID. Probation officer from the county, turns out, looking for my neighbor.
We discussed his address mix up and he was on his way down the road a bit.
Should I notify in a situation like that? My understanding of NC law is that I always notify LEO's who approach me in the line of duty. I guess I'm not clear if a PO counts as a LEO.
Thoughts?
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I would wonder if that law applies on your own property to begin with. But I'd imagine if they have the power to detain, then I suppose it would count.
but what do i know?
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I'd say no. He enforces probation and parole, not the laws.
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Just my opinion as well but I would have to say no. Private property, not an official interaction regarding you, and is he technically a law enforcement officer? May depend on state also?
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Thats how I lean!Originally Posted by chains1240
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I agree. Now if he showed up with a LEO for some reason I would consider it, but only after I found out they were there for me or not.
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NCTom was the error the PO's mistake or did his paperwork have the wrong address? Did he say why he had mistaken your address for the parolee's? Im kind of wondering if you may get another visit down the road if this isnt cleared up, maybe the police looking for the parolee at a later date, i hope not.
Good Luck, Vic.
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Actually he is enforcing laws....the sentence handed down by a court, and investigating possible criminal activity by the probationers/parolee. Some states POs are full fledged law enforcement just like a police officer. I think Alabama or maybe Arkansas trains their POs with Police Officers in an academy and give them full LE authority statewide.
That being said...I am a probation officer, and I would say no not in the context in which he contacted you would I worry about informing him.
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I say it never hurts. PO's are still LEO's.
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In Texas the wording for displaying the license is a sworn peace officer. If they don't meet that criteria your not required to show them. I don't believe that in Texas a parole or probation officer falls under sworn peace officer.
You would need to look at the specific wording in the NC statutes in order to find your answer.
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In our state Probation Officers are not L.E.O. They are seperate altogether from those who enforce the laws of the code of Va. I would not worry about a PO trying to locate his client as it has nothing to do with you.
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He wasn't approaching you (in the view of the law), he was asking for directions (so to speak) to another person.
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I'd recommend checking with the agency which issued your permit. POs are not necessarily LEOs in all states, and the rules change from state-to-state, and county-to-county. I think the intent is to report any contacts where you are stopped, or detained by police, but you never know.
Let's hope some parolee isn't using your address all over town.
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"NCTom was the error the PO's mistake or did his paperwork have the wrong address? Did he say why he had mistaken your address for the parolee's? Im kind of wondering if you may get another visit down the road if this isnt cleared up, maybe the police looking for the parolee at a later date, i hope not. "
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I would hate to have the address error carried over on a 3:00 AM Arrest Warrant.
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You’re on your own property, and that is the major circumstances here; not rather or not you have a CCL. And they do not have a need to know that you are armed.
Anytime someone other than a friend or relative drops by my house unexpected gives me reason for caution. While I’ll be friendly, cheerful and helpful, and very respectful should they produce “ID” saying they are an LEO, I am still guarded, of their visit and true intentions.
You’re also not out of line, calling the local PD or the agency/department they say they work for to verify their credential before talking to them or allowing them in your house, or property.
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