"No Guns" signs

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    "No Guns" signs

    I've been told more than once that here in Florida, a sign in a business window restricting guns inside does not make it illegal to enter the business with your legally concealed weapon. The management has the right to ask you to leave if they detect your weapon, but it is not illegal (no LEO's, no charges).

    Is this the truth? Is this a state-by-state thing?

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    Not positive on FL laws but I believe you are correct. As to other states, it depends on their laws. Always best to check individual states when traveling.

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    It is State by State. Her in florida we have Pre-Emption to keep local lawmakers from having different laws from state law. If I drive from Pensacola to Key West I have the same rules for the entire 600+ mile trip. For a similar reason the licenses were turned over to FL Dept of Agriculture (Charles H. Bronson) so individual sheriffs could not make their own criteria for who has a license.

    But if the owner of the establishment asks you to leave you leave (This does not mean he can place a sign asking all gun owners not to come in or leave, it has to be directly asking YOU to leave), at that point if you refuse to leave it is armed trespassing and you start getting into mandatory minimum sentencing.

    All places that are off limits in Florida are in State and Federal Law, no where else. A sign on a door means nothing legally, it only means they do not want My Money.

    The best reference you can possibly have is Jon Gutmachers Guide (Florida Firearms Law, Use, and Ownership) he explains the laws in plain English.
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    I haven't seen very many no guns signs in Orlando. I keep the gun well concealed and do take into places like court houses,federal buildings or other off limits places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom G View Post
    I keep the gun well concealed and do take into places like court houses,federal buildings or other off limits places.
    I hope that was a typo above......and you meant don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom G View Post
    I haven't seen very many no guns signs in Orlando. I keep the gun well concealed and do take into places like court houses,federal buildings or other off limits places.
    I caught that too and hoped it was a typo.

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    Just leave your gun in the car when you have to go into an establishment that has a sign posted no guns because we all know criminals obey those signs too so everyone will be unarmed and everyone including you will be safe!



    Here in PA it is not a felon to carry in an establishement with a sign posting no guns. If they discover you have a gun and they ask you to leave but you refuse then it's trespassing. Only state I know of where it's a felon is Ohio.

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    Cool

    I want others to respect my 2A rights, and I DO respect property owner's rights too. I can shop elsewhere or not. The anti-gun group don't need more ammunition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncligs View Post
    I hope that was a typo above......and you meant don't.
    In NYS it is illegal to take/carry a firearm into a court house, unless your a lawyer, bailiff, court employee or Judge. In other words, officers of the court are okay, all the rest of us peons must go unarmed.

    Most big city court houses have metal detectors.

    I have been a CCW holder since '94, and quite frankly the only "no guns" sign I have ever seen where in places I know I can not carry anyway..........

    ain't no big deal to me??
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    In Texas, I do not carry into establishments that have signs, legal signs or not. I don't carry there because I do not go into those places if I have a choice. With merchants, I always have a choice. I see a sign, I go elsewhere. If I see a sign that states "The UNlicensed carry of a firearm is prohibited..." I commend that merchant and make a point of shopping there.
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    Signs mean nothing, nada, zip, zero...here in FL.

    If you're going to carry in your home state, you need to make yourself familiar with its gun laws...very familiar. Do not rely on the opinions of others.
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    I'm glad when a business is frank about the fact that they don't want my money. This is good because I don't want to give a dime to any gun-banning aholes.

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    I am surprised your instructor didn't explain the rules.
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    I have never seen a sign prohibiting weapons. But if I did I wouldn't let ti stop me - concealed means concealed.

    To be honest I don't really look for the signs. I know where the law prohibits carry and I don't carry in those places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom G View Post
    I haven't seen very many no guns signs in Orlando. I keep the gun well concealed and do take into places like court houses,federal buildings or other off limits places.
    In my state that would be a violation of State and Federal law.

    Local business here who post signs do so without any benefit of the law and can only enforce their trespassing policy.
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