Uneventful Travel Experience

Uneventful Travel Experience

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    Uneventful Travel Experience

    I had to travel to Denver and then up to Wyoming last week. Checked in at Atlanta, told the agent I was checking a firearm. She directed me to the special TSA area where my bag was searched and the "Firearm Unloaded" tag was added to my locked handgun case. No problem. Same experience when checking in at Denver. All in all, a very uneventful experience. Just the kind I like in regards to carrying my firearm.

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    Awesome! Grats on an uneventful trip!
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    Nice to hear the good stories too, thanks for the post.
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    I see you mentioned they put the signed orange tag INSIDE your gun case. Is that correct?

    I was doing fine like you, but Detroit does full scanning, saw my weapon on the scanner and sent two of Detroit's finest to "escort" me from the gate. The cops started by saying it looked like I failed to declare my weapon. I said I had done so, and had already travelled two legs of the journey through Dulles and Salt Lake City. They said I had to leave the orange tag outside the case. The rules I saw say "inside the case".

    The Delta ticketing agent had put the orange form I signed inside my locked case, and since the TSA couldn't "see" it (and I keep the only key), I had to go and turn over my key. I might have missed my flight with all the brouhaha. Fortunately, all ended well. Even the Detroit cop told the TSA supervisor that I had a CHP, and was OK.

    Lessons learned:

    - print out rules and keep them on me
    - maintain my separate non-TSA key for my COM safe.
    - don't trust ANY ticketing agent to tell me what's right
    - don't let TSA screeners fondle my piece while not in my presence
    - affix a business-type card to the outside of the case with my name and cell phone number in case they need to contact me

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    Glad all went well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMac View Post
    I see you mentioned they put the signed orange tag INSIDE your gun case. Is that correct?

    I was doing fine like you, but Detroit does full scanning, saw my weapon on the scanner and sent two of Detroit's finest to "escort" me from the gate. The cops started by saying it looked like I failed to declare my weapon. I said I had done so, and had already travelled two legs of the journey through Dulles and Salt Lake City. They said I had to leave the orange tag outside the case. The rules I saw say "inside the case".

    The Delta ticketing agent had put the orange form I signed inside my locked case, and since the TSA couldn't "see" it (and I keep the only key), I had to go and turn over my key. I might have missed my flight with all the brouhaha. Fortunately, all ended well. Even the Detroit cop told the TSA supervisor that I had a CHP, and was OK.

    Lessons learned:

    - print out rules and keep them on me
    - maintain my separate non-TSA key for my COM safe.
    - don't trust ANY ticketing agent to tell me what's right
    - don't let TSA screeners fondle my piece while not in my presence
    - affix a business-type card to the outside of the case with my name and cell phone number in case they need to contact me
    Yes, inside the case. In Atlanta, the agent put the tag in the case, but TSA agent asked me to open while she searched the rest of my bag. Once she was done I locked the case, she put back in my bag and I was on my way. In Denver the Delta agent put the tag in the case, I relocked, put back in my bag and was escorted to the TSA area. Once they swabbed my bag and was ok I was on my way.

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    Steps in the stripping of State's Rights/Sovereignty
    1. War of Northern Agression 2. Coersion to ratify the 14th Amendment 3. Ratified 17th Amendment

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    During my most recent flying experience, the TSA agent at SeaTac in WA taped the orange tag to my COM with TSA tape. He told me if it settled in my luggage and got separated from the COM, the other TSA screeners who x-ray the baggage would consider it undeclared.

    The orange tag is there specifically to show TSA that you've declared the firearm and certified it as unloaded. They can't verify that you've done so if the tag is out of sight in your locked COM/gun case/etc. I either wrap the elastic string around the internal locking mechanism of my COM and leave the tag hanging out or else loop the string around the steel cable that secures my COM to the luggage frame.
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    ...and that's just the way it's supposed to be.

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    My recent trip to San Diego went the same way. Coming back was a little bit different, when I declared to the ticket agent you'd think I handed her a skunk the way her face contorted.
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    I've also had great experiences flying with a stowed firearm, so far only with Southwest though. Card inside the case for me too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmarkob View Post
    During my most recent flying experience, the TSA agent at SeaTac in WA taped the orange tag to my COM with TSA tape. He told me if it settled in my luggage and got separated from the COM, the other TSA screeners who x-ray the baggage would consider it undeclared.

    The orange tag is there specifically to show TSA that you've declared the firearm and certified it as unloaded. They can't verify that you've done so if the tag is out of sight in your locked COM/gun case/etc. I either wrap the elastic string around the internal locking mechanism of my COM and leave the tag hanging out or else loop the string around the steel cable that secures my COM to the luggage frame.
    All the rules I have read say "inside the locked case", but you are right. How can the TSA goober determine I declared my firearm if the tag is locked up inside my COM safe? Even though the rule says "inside the case", in the future, I am affixing it to the outside to aviod another incident like I had in Detroit. I am also labeling my COM safe with my name and cell phone number so they don't have to page me in the airport.

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    What kind of bag \ case do you recommend to use for this - or do they have their own special one for you to use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyCop View Post
    What kind of bag \ case do you recommend to use for this - or do they have their own special one for you to use?

    I use something like this, except it has a key lock, not combination.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=462945

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    My first airplane ride with my gun is coming up in less than a month. I hope my experience is as positive as yours.

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