No slack for disabled veterans?

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    No slack for disabled veterans?

    I noticed, as I researched what all it would entail to get my CHL in Texas, that as a veteran I pay half price for the permit. Which is of course great, however, I'm a little confused as to how they decided this price list for veterans and completely left out disabled veterans as a whole.

    I am retired military and a disabled veteran; the state of Texas is gracious enough to pay the registration on my pickup every year, provide me with a free hunting and fishing license and give me another tax break on my home. I guess I just kind of figured that the state, treating us disabled veterans as well as they do would charge us the same as they do active duty military, which is of course free.

    I don't mean to sound ungrateful for what our state does for me, because I know a lot of states do not provide anything for their veterans and I am very grateful for what Texas does for me. But, does anyone out there know if I am missing something here when it comes to the fees and a disabled vet?
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    It appears the state of TX only charges veterans 1/2 price for initial/renewal/change of address fees.

    http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis...updatefees.pdf

    TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
    Government Code, Chapter 411, Subchapter H.
    License to Carry a Concealed Handgun
    (A fee received by the Department under Subchapter H is non-refundable)
    CONCEALED HANDGUN LICENSING FEES
    ORIGINAL LICENSE
    Standard .........$140.00
    Senior Citizen (60 or older) ..........$70.00
    Indigent...........$70.00
    Active or Retired Peace Officer...........$25.00
    Active or Retired Judicial Officer...........$25.00
    Retired Federal Officer.............$25.00
    Felony Prosecutor ...........$0.00
    Other Prosecutor (not prosecuting felony cases).........$140.00
    Active Military ..................$0.00
    Veteran ...................$70.00
    Certified Instructor ............$100.00
    ORIGINAL INSTRUCTOR CERTIFICATE
    Standard .................$100.00
    Prorated .............$50.00
    RENEWAL LICENSE
    Standard ................$70.00
    Senior Citizen (60 or older) ..............$35.00
    Indigent...............$35.00
    Active or Retired Peace Officer............$25.00
    Active or Retired Judicial Officer..............$25.00
    Retired Federal Officer..............$25.00
    Felony Prosecutor ..............$0.00
    Other Prosecutor (not prosecuting felony cases).............$70.00
    Active Military ................$0.00
    Veteran ..............$35.00
    Certified Instructor ................$70.00
    RENEWAL INSTRUCTOR CERTIFICATE
    Standard ..............$100.00
    CHANGE OF ADDRESS, REPLACEMENT, OR MODIFICATION LICENSE
    (Fee based on condition of previous license application)
    Standard ...............$25.00
    Senior Citizen (60 or older) .............$12.50
    Indigent................$12.50
    Active or Retired Peace Officer...............$25.00
    Active or Retired Judicial Officer...............$25.00
    Retired Federal Officer...............$25.00
    Felony Prosecutor ..............$0.00
    Other Prosecutor (not prosecuting felony cases) .............$25.00
    Active Military ..............$0.00
    Veteran ..............$12.50
    Certified Instructor ...............$25.00
    INSTRUCTOR CERTIFICATE CHANGE OF ADDRESS
    Standard ..............$0.00

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    If your a disabled vet, dont you have to be a vetern first? I guess I'm not getting the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    If your a disabled vet, dont you have to be a vetern first? I guess I'm not getting the question.

    My thought too........you can't be a disabled vet and not also be a vet in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    If your a disabled vet, dont you have to be a vetern first? I guess I'm not getting the question.
    He's asking if he missed something in the Tx statutes, because Tx waives most fees 100% for disabled vets.

    Looks like they missed it on the CHL fees.
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    Best thing that you could do would be to call and ask someone at the Dept. that handles CHL permits. It would make sense that a Disabled Vet would get a bigger break. IMO, it's only fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-JB View Post
    He's asking if he missed something in the Tx statutes, because Tx waives most fees 100% for disabled vets.

    Looks like they missed it on the CHL fees.
    Yes, this is exactly what I meant; sorry if I was unclear on it.
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    Same "Boat" (Disabled Vet-Navy; that is)

    John;

    I'm a disabled veteran as well, and I don't think we are missing anything, as it relates to the DPS rules on fees for disabled veterans that is. I recently went through the application process as well, and asked them the same question. I too am grateful for the reduced fee, but that is it - no other benefit from DPS related to the CHL fees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XDs 4me View Post
    John;

    I'm a disabled veteran as well, and I don't think we are missing anything, as it relates to the DPS rules on fees for disabled veterans that is. I recently went through the application process as well, and asked them the same question. I too am grateful for the reduced fee, but that is it - no other benefit from DPS related to the CHL fees.
    Roger that, thanks for verifying that for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Luttrel View Post
    I noticed, as I researched what all it would entail to get my CHL in Texas, that as a veteran I pay half price for the permit. Which is of course great, however, I'm a little confused as to how they decided this price list for veterans and completely left out disabled veterans as a whole.

    I am retired military and a disabled veteran; the state of Texas is gracious enough to pay the registration on my pickup every year, provide me with a free hunting and fishing license and give me another tax break on my home. I guess I just kind of figured that the state, treating us disabled veterans as well as they do would charge us the same as they do active duty military, which is of course free.

    I don't mean to sound ungrateful for what our state does for me, because I know a lot of states do not provide anything for their veterans and I am very grateful for what Texas does for me. But, does anyone out there know if I am missing something here when it comes to the fees and a disabled vet?
    At least you get something from the state. In Virginia you get no breaks at all. Not even on taxes. I draw a 20% disability from the VA and I think if the state could figure a way to tax it they would.

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    Heck.. be glad they are giving you a break on the stuff that they do. Only break Disabled Vets (10-90%) get in FL is a $5000.00 exemption on your property taxed. 100% disabled vets pay $0.00 property taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02PSD4ME View Post
    Heck.. be glad they are giving you a break on the stuff that they do. Only break Disabled Vets (10-90%) get in FL is a $5000.00 exemption on your property taxed. 100% disabled vets pay $0.00 property taxes.
    I'd gladly settle for that!

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    I'm a disabled vet, 100% permanent and total, resulting from my Vietnam experience.

    I've learned that there are huge differences between states in terms of what they offer for disabled vets. Often a benefit is offered, but only to those at 100% disability, so lesser percentages are ruled out.

    Here in MN, there is no break for vets or disabled vets on carry permit fees. However, starting in 2009 I don't have to pay any property taxes, nor will my surviving spouse if I die before her--I'd much rather have this than a discount on carry permit fees!

    When all is said and done though, I'd be delighted to give up any such benefits in exchange for better health...heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyC4 View Post
    When all is said and done though, I'd be delighted to give up any such benefits in exchange for better health...heh.

    I hear that Jimmy; I feel lucky to only be 60% disabled and able to get around fairly well. In fact I feel lucky to be here at all, as my disability resulted from an aircraft incident in which I was the only survivor.

    Luckily, I was able to continue my military career and eventually retire from active duty, at which time they granted me with 60% disability. That percentage just happens to be the magic number to qualify me for concurrent VA disability/military retirement pay and not prevent me from working a full time job.
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    All one can do is ask, and be gratefull for what he/she does gets.
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