LTC in action in MA
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May 21st, 2009 01:13 PM
LTC in action in MA
WILBRAHAM - David P. Gatti, the man fatally shot inside a condominium on May 7, had armed himself with a broken wine glass, and was following the homeowner up the stairs when shot dead, according to local and state police.
Gatti, a star football and lacrosse player at Minnechaug Regional High School a decade ago, was "delusional and incoherent" when he entered the homeowner's unit, according to a prepared statement issued Thursday by Hampden District Attorney William M. Bennett.
Gatti suffered from severe depression and schizophrenia and was under a doctor's care, according to Bennett.
The information released by Bennett follows an investigation by Wilbraham police and state police attached to his office.
The investigation was aided with the full cooperation of the homeowner, which the release identifies as Ronald Duval, as well as Gatti's parents, Bennett said.
The incident started about 8:15 p.m. when Duval, owner of Unit C20, heard a loud rattling on the front door of his unit and someone saying "let me in, let me in."
Before answering the door, Duval picked up his .380 handgun from his briefcase, which was by the door and placed it in his waistband.
Duval is properly licensed to possess and carrying a firearm, according to Bennett.
When Duval opened the door, Gatti stepped inside. When Duval asked him who he was and what he was doing, he felt threatened by Gatti's delusional and incoherent responses.
As Duval backed into his kitchen, he pulled the gun and pointed it at Gatti, demanding that he stop.
Gatti continued toward Duval, picked up a wine glass from the dishwasher, broke it and threatened Duval with its broken stem.
Duval continue to back away and yelled at Gatti that he would shoot him if he didn't leave. Gatti told him to go ahead and shoot.
Duval moved up the stairs toward where his wife was taking a shower and continued to yell at Gatti to stop.
When Gatti moved up the stairs, Duval shot him in the leg. When Gatti did not stop, Duval shot again, striking Gatti in the chest.
Gatti slumped to the floor and died from the wound to his chest.
Ballistic evidence showed that two shots were fired from the landing of the stairs between the first and second floors. A broken wine glass was found partly in the sink and partly on the floor of the condominium.
Massachusetts law recognizes that deadly force may be used in self-defense in limited circumstances, according to Bennett.
Bennett said he has determined there is no probable cause to support criminal charges and that the case will be closed.
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May 21st, 2009 01:23 PM
A good SD shooting. Unfortunate that these things have to happen.
May 21st, 2009 01:37 PM
None of this would have happened if he never opened the door. Sounds like a good shoot but it's a shame when the mentally ill are released to the world and people are forced into this position. No winners here, just a survivor.
May 21st, 2009 01:47 PM
He gave the guy plenty of chances to get out of his house. He should have no regrets.
May 21st, 2009 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis
There are 10 types of people in the world:
Those who understand binary, and those that don't.
May 21st, 2009 05:34 PM
Sounds like suicide by someone else's firearm... What a rotten thing to do to the Duval's.
May 21st, 2009 06:46 PM
to bad but. do what you have to do and do it good . with no regrets
Guns dont kill people. people kill people
May 21st, 2009 07:55 PM
Sounds like no regrets...until after the investigation is over and you're the one cleaning the dried blood and tissue out of your flooring. No regrets until your wife can't live in your home anymore because she can't stand the thought of someone dieing on your stairs, or that she will "never feel safe here anymore". No regrets until you lose 20% of your homes value because of the housing market and having to disclose that you had to shoot a man in the home.
+1 and plenty of regret!
No winners here, just a survivor.
It is surely true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Nor can you make them grateful for your efforts.
May 21st, 2009 10:25 PM
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Originally Posted by dnowell
We have a winner! In this day and age, who opens an unlocked door to someone they a) don't know, b) know has emotional problems, c) has a history of violence?
If someone I know comes over unexpectedly, the door gets opened. Everyone else, ain't gonna happen!
Now, the mentally ill guy should never have put the homeowner in this position. But, stuff happens. People have to think. Stuff happens.
He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliott
The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.
May 21st, 2009 10:52 PM
In MA, I'm glad They respected His right to Self Defence.
Over all sad.
May 22nd, 2009 08:23 AM
A shame it had to happen at all. Sounds like the homeowner did all the right things after he opened the door. The problem is he never should have opened the door in the first place. He certainly was justified in defending his home, but he put himself in a bad spot by letting the guy in.
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