Urgent Action Needed: TX Campus andParking Lot Bills
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TWO URGENT ...
May 21st, 2009 03:39 PM
Urgent Action Needed: TX Campus andParking Lot Bills
Text below as posted on a couple of other forums, but not yet seen here. Texans, PLEASE, let's light them up now!!!
TWO URGENT ACTION ITEMS: Parking lots & Campus-Carry
by Charles L. Cotton » Thu May 21, 2009 11:58 am
We need everyone to call Rep. Brian McCall, Chairman of the House Calendars Committee and politely but strongly tell him that you want both SB730 (employer parking lots) and SB1164 (campus carry) set on the House MAJOR Calendar, not the General Calendar.
Tell him you are aware that:
1. SB730 - parking lots has been in the calendars committee for two weeks and a day;
2. You have watched other bills going into Calendars then being set to the Floor within 2 to 3 days;
3. That the Calendars Committee pulled the same stunt with the employer's parking lot bill last session;
4. That you know putting a bill on the House General Calendar is a move designed to kill the bill.
Then call House Speaker Joe Straus and tell him that you are very disappointed that important NRA and TSRA bills (campus and parking lots) are clearly being stalled by the Republican leadership for the second session in a row.
Both of these men need to hear from a whole bunch of people. As always, be polite but firm.
Here is the official NRA email alert:
NRA Alert wrote:
URGENT: HELP NEEDED FROM TEXAS NRA MEMBERS ON SENATE BILL 730!
The Texas Legislature is entering its last 10 days of session, and the Texas House has not voted on one single significant pro-Second Amendment issue the entire session. That means that NRA's top legislative priority – Senate Bill 730, a bill that would allow employees to lawfully store firearms in their locked motor vehicles while parked at work -- may die this session. Not because SB 730 doesn't have the votes, but because the House won't be given a chance to vote on it.
This bill passed the Senate unanimously back on March 25! It enjoys strong, bi-partisan support among House members. But the House Calendars Committee has thus-far refused to set SB 730 for a vote by the full House. Powerful business and industry lobbyists are pulling out all the stops to keep this bill bottled up in Calendars, because they know it has a good shot at passing if it gets to the House floor. In 2007, the House Calendars Committee pulled the same trick - and finally scheduled that session's employee/parking lot bill so late and so far down on the House Calendar that it had no hope of coming up for a vote before the consideration deadline. < STRONG>Unless you take the following actions, the same thing may happen to SB 730 in the 2009 session:
* Contact House Calendars Committee Chairman Brian McCall's (R-66) office TODAY at (512) 463-0758 and urge him to set SB 730 on the Major State Calendar so that the bill has a chance to be voted on by the full House before its too late. Major State Calendar bills are the first to be considered each legislative day, and it's the only way to guarantee that SB 730 actually has a shot at a vote before the consideration deadline.
* Contact Speaker Joe Straus' (R-121) office TODAY at (512) 463-1000 and urge him to do everything he can to ensure that SB 730 is placed on the Major State Calendar and voted on by the full House before next week's deadline.
Edited to add: In trying the numbers above, Rep. McCall's 512-4630758 mailbox was full and Speaker Straus' number was busy. I went to their respective web pages and looked up the following to try as well - pronto please if unable to get through on the others.
Rep. Brian McCall: 512-463-0594 (Austin) Fax: 512-463-5896
972-881-0890 (Plano) Fax: 972-422-9061
Speaker Joe Straus: Austin Fax: 512-463-0675
San Antonio Office Phone: 210-828-4411 Another Fax: 512-463-1064
May 21st, 2009 06:48 PM
May 21st, 2009 06:50 PM
I called both numbers this morning and the mailbox was full on one and the other gave me an immediate reorder tone.
I guess we are hitting them hard, or they unplugged the phone.
I have also notified my US Reps and Senators and urged them to contact their state level counter parts to push this through.
Edit: Finally got through by calling 512-463-0594.
"Don't hit a man if you can possibly avoid it; but if you do hit him, put him to sleep." - Theodore Roosevelt
May 21st, 2009 08:26 PM
Yeah, sic 'em Paco!
Also seeing reports elsewhere of full voice mail boxes and/or no answer. When I did get to speak with McCall's aide at the 512-463-0594 number earlier today, she mentioned "2,000 phone calls".
Let's not let up. Show 'em we're just getting warmed up. While phone calls and faxes are much more difficult to ignore, as a last resort (or in addition to!), if all else fails, you can also e-mail.
Brian McCall Texas House of Representatives: Member Brian McCall
Joe Straus Texas House of Representatives
May 21st, 2009 11:35 PM
From checking on on this thread http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCH...94cdcc#p283828
just now, it looks like a few thousand of us overwhelming their phones and fax machines today got some results.
Especially Texas "constituents", please read the most current posts there before calling or faxing. Where appropriate, let's keep hitting the right people at the right time all the way through Memorial Day!
May 22nd, 2009 10:25 AM
What was in my "Inbox" this morning:
--- On Fri, 5/22/09, W. Scott Lewis <email@example.com> wrote:
From: W. Scott Lewis <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Texas Senate Bill 1164 (Clarifications and a Final Update)
Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:09 AM
Attention Texas Supporters of Concealed Carry on Campus:
Thank you for bearing with us yesterday as we sent out more SB 1164 updates than most people could keep up with. As you probably noticed, the updates were put out in such rapid succession and passed through so many hands (NRA to TSRA to SCCC to me to you) that some of the notices picked up errors along the way (i.e., incorrect bill numbers), and some of the notices contained information that quickly became useless (i.e., some phone lines became so jammed that it soon became pointless to try to call those numbers). We were all doing our best to keep you updated on the latest twists and turns in this rapidly developing situation, and that, unfortunately, came at the cost of a little confusion and a lot of full inboxes. Now that the confusion has cleared, I want to update you on exactly where we stand.
As you probably know by now, Texas Senate Bill 1164, better known as the “guns on campus,” “campus carry,” or “concealed carry on campus” bill, was passed by the Texas Senate Wednesday afternoon. The bill now has until 11:59 PM Saturday to be scheduled for a floor vote in the Texas House and until 11:59 PM Tuesday to receive a preliminary vote in the Texas House.
Just prior to adjournment yesterday (Thursday, May 21, 2009), the bill received its first reading (a formality) in the Texas House of Representatives and was assigned to the House Committee on Public Safety. According to Rule 4, Section 11(a) of the “Rules and Precedents of the Texas House,” the Public Safety Committee is not required to hold a public hearing on SB 1164 because they already held a public hearing on House Bill 1893, which was “substantially the same” as SB 1164. That means that the Public Safety Committee could vote on SB 1164 in an informal meeting as early as this morning (Friday, May 22). The Public Safety Committee can report favorably or unfavorably on the bill, but because they previously voted favorably on HB 1893, they’re expected to vote favorably on SB 1164 (more on this below).
If the Public Safety Committee reports favorably on the bill, that report will go to the House Committee on Calendars. It’s then up to the Calendars Committee to schedule the bill for a vote by the full House of Representatives. This is the most crucial step of the process. As previously stated, the deadline to schedule bills for a floor vote by the full Houses is 11:59 PM this coming Saturday. If the Calendars Committee doesn’t schedule SB 1164 for a vote before that deadline, the bill dies. And that’s not the only way the Calendars Committee could kill the bill. They could also place SB 1164 so far down the House calendar that there is no possible way the House will reach it by 11:59 PM this coming Tuesday, which is the deadline for bills to receive the first of two required votes in the House.
The only way to be certain that the House will reach SB 1164 before the Tuesday deadline is for the Calendars Committee to place SB 1164 on the House MAJOR calendar, rather than the House general calendar. Bills on the major calendar are always voted on first. This means that we need to vigorously and persistently push the members of the Texas House Committee on Calendars to place Senate Bill 1164 on the House MAJOR calendar AS SOON AS IT GETS TO THEM.
For the reasons mentioned above, the members of the Calendars Committee should be the first legislators you contact (starting with Committee Chair Brian McCall of Plano).
THE TEXAS HOUSE COMMITTEE ON CALENDARS (firmly but politely push these members to place Senate Bill 1164 on the House MAJOR calendar AS SOON AS IT GETS TO THEM):
Texas House of Representatives (click on a Representative’s name or photo to view his or her contact info).
After contacting the members of the Calendars Committee, you should call the three members of the Public Safety Committee who have indicated that they’re not entirely sure how they’ll vote on SB 1164. The fact that the Public Safety Committee passed HB 1893 is no guarantee that it will pass SB 1164. The vote on HB 1893 was close, and our opponents are focusing on these members of the Public Safety Committee, in an effort to kill the bill before it ever reaches the Calendars Committee.
MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY WHOM YOU SHOULD CONTACT:
Rep. Tryon D. Lewis - Texas House of Representatives: Member Tryon D. Lewis
Rep. Phil King - Texas House of Representatives: Member Phil King
Rep. Hubert Vo - Texas House of Representatives: Member Hubert Vo
Finally, if none of the Representatives mentioned above represent your district, you should also contact YOUR State Representative:
Congress.org - Elected Officials
When you contact your State Representative, be sure to mention that you live in his or her district. When it comes to controversial bills like this, legislators hear from voters from all over the state, so you want to make sure and let your Representative know that you’re actually one of his or her constituents. The opinions of constituents always carry a lot more weight with legislators.
Also, when talking to any legislator about this issue, be sure and mention if you happen to be a college student, a college professor, a college employee, or a parent of a college student (or soon-to-be college student). The opinions of people personally affected by bills typically carry a little more weight with legislators.
The links above contain the phone and fax numbers for both the Representative’s Capitol offices and their district offices. Unless you live in a Representative’s district, you should try contacting his or her Capitol office first. The links also contain forms for emailing the legislators. Emails to legislators are often dismissed as less significant than phone calls and faxes or not read at all, so email should only be used if you can’t reach a Representative’s office by phone or fax or if you want to supplement your call or fax to the Representative.
Thanks again for all you’re support and hard work. We’re almost to the finish line, so don’t let up now!
W. Scott Lewis
Former National Media Coordinator for Students for Concealed Carry on Campus (SCCC)
PS. As always, anyone who is unfamiliar with or unsure about this issue can review the "Students for Concealed Carry on Campus Handbook: Texas Edition" here:
studentsforconcealedcarryoncampus.com (PDF version)
SCCC Handbook: Texas Edition - Non-fiction, Books, and Statistics (Flash version)
May 22nd, 2009 11:30 AM
Some more specific info. as just posted by another member at TexasCHLforum.com
Re: TWO URGENT ACTION ITEMS: Parking lots & Campus-Carry
by CWOOD » Fri May 22, 2009
In calling/faxing/visiting members of Calendars Committee regarding SB730 (parking lot storage) and SB1164 (campus carry) please keep in mind some of the members of this committee authored/coauthored the house companion bills .
Companion HB1301 was authored/coauthored by the following members of Calendars Committee:
Vice-Chair: Lucio III
Kuempel (still in hospital from heart attack)
THIS BILL IS STILL IN HOUSE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. FOR A LIST OF MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE CLICK HERE:
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/Committees ... eCode=C420
Chair Merritt (supported HB1893)
Vice-chair: Frost (supported HB1893)
Driver (wrote HB1893)
King,Phil (supported HB1893)
Rodriguez,Eddie (my rep and very anti)
If it gets out of Public Safety Committee, then it will go to Calendars Committee.
Companion HB1893 was authored/coauthored by the following members of Calendars Committee:
Vice-Chair: Lucio III
Kuempel (in hospital)
Please acknowledge their support when asking for action on getting these two bills to MAJOR calendar.
May 22nd, 2009 11:37 AM
Done what I could....now I sit back with fingers crossed.
May 22nd, 2009 05:36 PM
Another update from my "Inbox":
I'm aware that the subject of my last email said, “Final Update,” so I hope you’ll excuse this brief postscript to that final update.
The Texas House of Representatives typically works through about four or five pages of their overall calendar each day. There are currently three and a half legislative days left until the deadline for Senate bills to receive their first vote in the House. The House currently has 30 pages of unresolved calendar to get through.
Do the math—there is no way that SB 1164 will receive a House vote prior to the deadline (11:59 PM Tuesday, May 26) UNLESS the Calendars Committee places it on the House MAJOR calendar, which would put it on approximately page three of the overall House calendar.
When you call and fax the members of the House Calendars Committee, politely but adamantly push them to place Senate Bill 1164 on the House MAJOR calendar. Also, as soon as you get a chance, please contact the office of House Speaker Joe Straus (V: 512-463-0686 / F: 512-463-0675), and ask him to ask the Calendars Committee to place SB 1164 on the House MAJOR calendar.
W. Scott Lewis
Former National Media Coordinator for Students for Concealed Carry on Campus (SCCC)
May 22nd, 2009 10:55 PM
On a 5-2 vote, the House Public Safety Committee approved the Campus Protection Act from the Senate, but the following does not help us at all on the Campus Carry or Parking Lot legislation deadlines.
Democrats use 'chubbing' stalling strategy
By KELLEY SHANNON Associated Press Writer © 2009 The Associated Press
May 22, 2009, 1:11PM
AUSTIN, Texas — Talkative House Democrats used stalling tactics Friday to prevent passage of a voter identification bill they oppose that's scheduled for debate this weekend.
Democrats — who'd warned they would put up a fight to stop the voter ID measure — began talking at length on non-controversial legislation to use up the clock. The Legislature adjourns June 1, and a number of bill passage deadlines are arriving in the next few days.
The Senate already passed a Republican-pushed bill requiring voters to show a photo ID or two non-photo ID alternatives when they cast a ballot. Democrats say that would prevent people without those forms of identification from voting and suppress turnout. If Democrats are going to stop the legislation, it will have to be in the House, where the chamber is almost evenly divided by party.
Veteran Rep. Delwin Jones, R-Lubbock, said Democratic opponents of the voter ID bill were trying to pressure fellow lawmakers to negotiate the legislation, in turn threatening scores of unrelated bills. The delay tactic, using the rules to eat up time, is known as "chubbing."
"In lieu of the filibuster, the House chubs," Jones said. "It keeps a lot of bills from being considered, which puts a lot of pressure on the members who have bills they want to pass."
The House gaveled into session 30 minutes late Friday. Then, after the usual prayer, pledge and welcoming remarks, legislators started in on a long "local and consent" agenda. It's supposed to be a non-controversial agenda of bills that usually breezes along.
But Democrats made it clear they planned to ask lots of questions on those bills and use up all the time permitted — 10 minutes per bill — to slow down the House's work pace.
One Democratic lawmaker during his questioning about a proposed municipal utility district in Waller County brought up a House leadership scandal from the 1970s. Another, questioning a Republican doctor representatives on his legislation, asked about the best remedies for nasal congestion.
Rep. Sid Miller, R-Stephenville, raised a technical point to try to prevent the whole local and consent agenda from being considered so that the House could return to major pending bills, like changes to the top 10 percent college admissions law and, potentially, voter ID, slated for Saturday. He later temporarily withdrew that technical challenge.
"Hopefully we can get back to the people's business and see less chubbing," Miller pleaded, to no avail.
Republicans huddled to talk strategy at the back of the House chamber and in an adjoining conference room, where former Speaker Tom Craddick joined them. The Republicans told news reporters to leave the room.
Rep. Mike "Tuffy" Hamilton, R-Mauriceville, said Republicans were taking a wait-and-see approach, for now.
Speaker Pro Tempore Craig Eiland, a Galveston Democrat, presided over the House early Friday instead of Republican Speaker Joe Straus, as is usually done for a local bill agenda. Eiland reminded lawmakers they had a full three minutes to explain their bills if they wanted to take all the available time.
At one point during the morning stalling, Democratic Rep. Mike Villarreal of San Antonio asked Eiland with a smile: "Mr. Speaker, are we going to break for lunch?"
Lawmakers were told there would be no formal lunch break; there was complimentary shrimp waiting for them in the recently remodeled legislators' lounge.
Associated Press writers Jay Root and Jackie Stone contributed to this report.
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