Carry at a theme park?

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    In Florida theme parks are not illegal to carry in but all of them have security search all bags being brought in. So fanny packs, or OWB covered by a shirt wont work. I normally carry my little P3AT 380 Kel-Tec in a nemesis pocket holster.
    I ware short cargo shorts, and it disappears in my front pocket.

    But beware, while 90% of all rides exert positive g-force, some from time to time, hit you with negative Gs and even things in your pocket can fly out, if not fully secure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotomaker57 View Post
    I am sure many here will disagree with me on this but a Theme Park is not the place to go armed. If God forbid you should need to use your pistol, the risk to others is just too great. With the huge number of people ever were you go there is no way to safely discharge your weapon and not put others at risk. At the sound of the first shot people will be scrambling for cover and running into your line of fire. The danger of a pass through is just to scary to think about in such large crowds. If you feel you need to be armed carry some OC spray or a knife. I know we all have to make our own decisions on this but please think long and hard before you do.
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    ""With the huge number of people ever were you go there is no way to safely discharge your weapon and not put others at risk.""

    This is the very reason some wacko would pick a theme park to play out his fantasy. Do you really want to be that guy on a CCTV video that is hunkered down by the tilt-a-wheel when the wacko strolls up and pops everybody in the head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PM View Post
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    Disney World/Land is a NO CARRY ZONE!! Old lady got busted for purse carry there a year or two ago.
    Not exactly true in FL.

    Signs mean nothing here. However, if discovered, you must leave or face trespass charges.

    Now, almost everything there is steel structure and fiberglass. Horrible background if you miss. It's going to be a bad day when you miss the BG and hit some kid in a stroller.

    OTOH, there are cops and security everywhere, even though you will not see them unless and until something happens. Part of the 'behind the scenes' is you (and everyone else) are being watched constantly, either in person or on TV (smile! You're on Candid Camera).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tns0038 View Post
    In Florida theme parks are not illegal to carry in but all of them have security search all bags being brought in. So fanny packs, or OWB covered by a shirt wont work. I normally carry my little P3AT 380 Kel-Tec in a nemesis pocket holster.
    I ware short cargo shorts, and it disappears in my front pocket.

    But beware, while 90% of all rides exert positive g-force, some from time to time, hit you with negative Gs and even things in your pocket can fly out, if not fully secure.
    It would be a horrible feeling to see my G27 go flying thru the air... at the top of a ride........

    Be Alert and Stay Safe

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    Charges: Father Badly Beaten By 8 At Valleyfair

    Charges: Father Badly Beaten By 8 At Valleyfair - wcco.com

    Six men and a teenager are facing felony assault charges after they seriously injured the father of a 12-year-old girl at Valleyfair Amusement Park, according to Shakopee Police.

    The report states just after midnight the evening of July 4, police were dispatched to Valleyfair to assist an officer with the detention of the men and to help provide medical attention to the unconscious victim. When officers arrived, Valleyfair security and one officer already had the men detained in the main parking lot.

    Witnesses told police that the fight began when one of the men slapped the girl on her buttocks. The father responded by yelling at him. The man then used his cell phone to call his seven friends over to "get these bitches," according to the mother of the girl.

    In the fight that followed, the father received a broken right orbital (the facial bones around the eye), cuts to his face and arms, and possible subdural bleeding between his skull and brain, according to police.

    The first officer at the scene was directed by Valleyfair Security to the group of eight men, and he ordered them to the ground. Seven of them did so, but one tried to run and was later apprehended.

    Though the victim was unconscious, his wife was able to inform police about what happened and identify the suspects. She said that the eight men took turns stomping on her husband's face as he was on the ground.

    All of the suspects were arrested and taken to Scott County Jail.

    The six men who have been charged were identified by the Scott County District Court as 22-year-old Terry Laron Arnold, 19-year-old Andrew Demarkis Shannon, 18-year-old Devondre Evans-Lewis, 19-year-old Derry Darnell Evans, 20-year-old Darris Devon Evans, 20-year-old Anthony Cornandance Gildersleeve. A seventh teen was also charged, but his name was not released because he is a minor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Rogers View Post
    Charges: Father Badly Beaten By 8 At Valleyfair

    Charges: Father Badly Beaten By 8 At Valleyfair - wcco.com

    Six men and a teenager are facing felony assault charges after they seriously injured the father of a 12-year-old girl at Valleyfair Amusement Park, according to Shakopee Police.

    The report states just after midnight the evening of July 4, police were dispatched to Valleyfair to assist an officer with the detention of the men and to help provide medical attention to the unconscious victim. When officers arrived, Valleyfair security and one officer already had the men detained in the main parking lot.

    Witnesses told police that the fight began when one of the men slapped the girl on her buttocks. The father responded by yelling at him. The man then used his cell phone to call his seven friends over to "get these bitches," according to the mother of the girl.

    In the fight that followed, the father received a broken right orbital (the facial bones around the eye), cuts to his face and arms, and possible subdural bleeding between his skull and brain, according to police.

    The first officer at the scene was directed by Valleyfair Security to the group of eight men, and he ordered them to the ground. Seven of them did so, but one tried to run and was later apprehended.

    Though the victim was unconscious, his wife was able to inform police about what happened and identify the suspects. She said that the eight men took turns stomping on her husband's face as he was on the ground.

    All of the suspects were arrested and taken to Scott County Jail.

    The six men who have been charged were identified by the Scott County District Court as 22-year-old Terry Laron Arnold, 19-year-old Andrew Demarkis Shannon, 18-year-old Devondre Evans-Lewis, 19-year-old Derry Darnell Evans, 20-year-old Darris Devon Evans, 20-year-old Anthony Cornandance Gildersleeve. A seventh teen was also charged, but his name was not released because he is a minor.

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    Thats why I carry. You never know when, where, or how the wolves will strike and when they do, I dont want to be unarmed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Censored View Post
    Sec 46.035 of the Texas penal code. It's in the CHL manual.

    NO AMUSEMENT PARKS

    It goes on to define them as permanent and size limitations
    Our instructor went over that in class and said that at that time (2007) the only two facilities in the state of Texas that met the definition were Six Flags and Sea World. Of course that does not mean the owners of any other park can't just slap up a 30.06 sign like any other business.
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    I know of no theme/amusement park that allows concealed carry.

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    Fairs and theme parks are havens for paedophiles and idiots who want to harm our kids. The fair owners never invest in security. They usually have unarmed wimps for security who usually are slacking off with their friends and can never handle a situation like the one mentioned.

    This is a serious situation where a poorly defined law forces legal CCW holders to keep their guns at home or their car. Any place where there are kids attract sickos. We should either force the organizers to have real guards or force the government to reverse the laws on concealed carry in theme parks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Rogers View Post
    Charges: Father Badly Beaten By 8 At Valleyfair

    Charges: Father Badly Beaten By 8 At Valleyfair - wcco.com

    Six men and a teenager are facing felony assault charges after they seriously injured the father of a 12-year-old girl at Valleyfair Amusement Park, according to Shakopee Police.

    The report states just after midnight the evening of July 4, police were dispatched to Valleyfair to assist an officer with the detention of the men and to help provide medical attention to the unconscious victim. When officers arrived, Valleyfair security and one officer already had the men detained in the main parking lot.

    Witnesses told police that the fight began when one of the men slapped the girl on her buttocks. The father responded by yelling at him. The man then used his cell phone to call his seven friends over to "get these bitches," according to the mother of the girl.

    In the fight that followed, the father received a broken right orbital (the facial bones around the eye), cuts to his face and arms, and possible subdural bleeding between his skull and brain, according to police.

    The first officer at the scene was directed by Valleyfair Security to the group of eight men, and he ordered them to the ground. Seven of them did so, but one tried to run and was later apprehended.

    Though the victim was unconscious, his wife was able to inform police about what happened and identify the suspects. She said that the eight men took turns stomping on her husband's face as he was on the ground.

    All of the suspects were arrested and taken to Scott County Jail.

    The six men who have been charged were identified by the Scott County District Court as 22-year-old Terry Laron Arnold, 19-year-old Andrew Demarkis Shannon, 18-year-old Devondre Evans-Lewis, 19-year-old Derry Darnell Evans, 20-year-old Darris Devon Evans, 20-year-old Anthony Cornandance Gildersleeve. A seventh teen was also charged, but his name was not released because he is a minor.
    Tough story to read..... I noticed this took place in MN about 10 months ago. I don't remember ever hearing about it. Anyone know if these thugs spend any prison time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfshead View Post
    Fairs and theme parks are havens for paedophiles and idiots who want to harm our kids. The fair owners never invest in security. They usually have unarmed wimps for security who usually are slacking off with their friends and can never handle a situation like the one mentioned.

    This is a serious situation where a poorly defined law forces legal CCW holders to keep their guns at home or their car. Any place where there are kids attract sickos. We should either force the organizers to have real guards or force the government to reverse the laws on concealed carry in theme parks.
    I don't think you have been to Disney World. They are as secure as the White House. I believe they use Orlando PD or Orange County sheriffs and there is a station there.

    I would also say that the laws are pretty well defined. If you want to carry then don't go or explain to your kid that Daddy cannot disarm as it would jeopardize their safety so they will not be going to Disney World.

    And forcing the owners to have "real" security is not the governments job. Nor is forcing them to reverse their CCW policies. And these two things are not the inverse of each other. Allowing CCW does not guaranty safety by any means. Your idea of the government running the business and making business decisions is the epitome of socialism and not an answer. Instead you can start your own theme park where CCW is allowed, boycott these places, or go there and disarm. Pretty simple, isn't it?

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    There are many post about carrying in Disney. I carried my Glock 26 IWB (Bluegrass holster w/o retention strap) for 2 days when I was down in Orlando. You can carry anything you want into Disney in your pockets. They half ass check your bag. (Real Mickey Mouse Police force, hahaha) You know the video with the kid packing guns in every pocket, he can walk right in. Yes, everything is made of paper mache and chicken wire and walls are not solid. So make the shot placement count. Every square inch the retail stores are covered in cameras and they are proactive on shop lifters. They are a lot of undercover security walking in the stores. All the Orlando theme parks don't allow they own employees to bring and leave their own personal guns in their personal vehicles while working on property. Even though the law allows it. Last year when I attended Universal they too took a glance of what is in your bag, no metal detectors, no wands.
    I have been to many theme park and never once lost anything from flying out of my pockets, off my head so I find it hard to believe that my 26 is going to jump out of my holster out from under my shirt and go flying. It is a chance that I will take for my families safety.

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    [QUOTE=Tecumseh;1163222]I don't think you have been to Disney World. They are as secure as the White House. I believe they use Orlando PD or Orange County sheriffs and there is a station there.
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    As I was writing your post came thru. Yes, I have been to Disney World and Disney Land and Disney Paris and planning a trip to Tokyo Disney and Hong Kong (If they don't go out of business). In what way do you think they are secure? Meaning grabing a kid and trying to leave with him/her? I agree it could never happen. I am sure that they have a code ADAM +1,000. All the parks could lock down until the kid is recovered. And they are pro-active in shop lifting. The Leos either Orlando PD/County sherriffs job is basically issue summons for speeding and other traffic infractions/ accident reports but do NOT enter the park unless they are called. The LEO's sit outside Animal Kindom park lot area or right as you exit the tram before you enter the ticket gates. You must take a tram from Magic Kindom parking lot to the MK park so they are not stationed there. Animal Kindom, Epcot and Hollywood studios parking is closer to the enterance. Put if there was a SHTF the Leo's could not be on scene for a solid 15-20 minutes. Alot can happen it that time.

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    [QUOTE=HITCH KING;1163245]
    Quote Originally Posted by Tecumseh View Post
    I don't think you have been to Disney World. They are as secure as the White House. I believe they use Orlando PD or Orange County sheriffs and there is a station there.
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    The Leos either Orlando PD/County sherriffs job is basically issue summons for speeding and other traffic infractions/ accident reports but do NOT enter the park unless they are called. The LEO's sit outside Animal Kindom park lot area or right as you exit the tram before you enter the ticket gates. You must take a tram from Magic Kindom parking lot to the MK park so they are not stationed there. Animal Kindom, Epcot and Hollywood studios parking is closer to the enterance. Put if there was a SHTF the Leo's could not be on scene for a solid 15-20 minutes. Alot can happen it that time.
    Absolutely not true. S.O. is onsite, you just don't see them.
    In fact there is a substation that the public never sees, until they break the law. I know this for an absolute fact, because I have been in it.

    Decide for yourself whether to carry or not. But, LEO presence is strong, if not obvious.
    Last edited by miklcolt45; May 26th, 2009 at 04:46 PM. Reason: clarify
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