Trip to Costco........now posted!
This is a discussion on Trip to Costco........now posted! within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Went to Costco today and BAM, a big sign at the door. "No firearms permitted" and just below it "ARS 13-3102". I was disgusted and ...
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May 26th, 2009 04:09 PM
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Trip to Costco........now posted!
Went to Costco today and BAM, a big sign at the door. "No firearms permitted" and just below it "ARS 13-3102". I was disgusted and turned around. I immediately went home to look up the Arizona revised statute. According to the statute it is still legal to carry open or concealed as long as the person is not a prohibited possesor.
Did Costco put up the statute to give it an offficial appearance? Did they actually read the statute?
Time to get the Sams membership.
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May 26th, 2009 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
helitech
According to the statute it is still legal to carry open or concealed as long as the person is not a prohibited possesor.
If that's the case, ignore the sign.
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May 26th, 2009 04:54 PM
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10. Unless specifically authorized by law, entering any public establishment or attending any public event and carrying a deadly weapon on his person after a reasonable request by the operator of the establishment or the sponsor of the event or the sponsor's agent to remove his weapon and place it in the custody of the operator of the establishment or the sponsor of the event for temporary and secure storage of the weapon pursuant to section 13-3102
I think this says differently.. I was told by a CCW instructor not to go in to Costco after they posted them signs,.. If it is posted and you enter,. They have already told you to get out, and you will get arrested for trespassing with a weapon..
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May 26th, 2009 05:03 PM
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Still does not apply, read the definitions of "public establishment" or "public event"
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Public establishment" means a structure, vehicle or craft that is owned, leased or operated by this state or a political subdivision of this state.
2. "Public event" means a specifically named or sponsored event of limited duration that is either conducted by a public entity or conducted by a private entity with a permit or license granted by a public entity. Public event does not include an unsponsored gathering of people in a public place.
My CCW instructor (former cop) agrees
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May 26th, 2009 05:10 PM
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They just built one of these close to my home. I will see if they are posted. Haven't joined one of these yet........and maybe I won't.
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May 26th, 2009 05:11 PM
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Did Costco do this because of some incident in one of its stores or is it that they are just plain stupid?
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May 26th, 2009 05:23 PM
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I have never been in a Costco. I always go to Sam's Club. no problem.
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May 26th, 2009 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I have never been in a Costco. I always go to Sam's Club. no problem.
Same here. No sign's at our SAM's.
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May 26th, 2009 05:51 PM
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Is Costco deemed a private entity? I know that they require a membership in order to purchase an item. Do they require a membership to enter? If they are deemed private, they might have the right to exclude people that they deem undesirable just as a homeowner would. I am not from AZ and am by no means disputing what you guys are saying...Just raising the question.
I would ask the Attorney General for an interpretation of the law.
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May 26th, 2009 05:55 PM
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I am in Texas & we have a Costco just ten minutes from the house. We go twice a week and they have never posted anything negative about CHL/no signs blocking our entry.
I do know that the CEO was a vocal supporter of Senator John Kerry (D-MA) in 2004 for President, though, FWIW.
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May 26th, 2009 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Is Costco deemed a private entity? I know that they require a membership in order to purchase an item. Do they require a membership to enter? If they are deemed private, they might have the right to exclude people that they deem undesirable just as a homeowner would. I am not from AZ and am by no means disputing what you guys are saying...Just raising the question.
I would ask the Attorney General for an interpretation of the law.
I don't believe Costco requires a membership, Sam's Club does though.
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May 26th, 2009 05:57 PM
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Costco is privately owned as are a majority of businesses. Signage has no legal merit here in AZ unlike Texas 30.06. All they can do is ask you to leave. If you do not comply, then you can be arrested for trespassing.
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May 26th, 2009 06:15 PM
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criminal trespass : Arizona CCW Permit
Here is the article that I know I have read,. It is plan English, but maybe it is wrong??
Do we have any Arizona LEO that wants to jump in here???
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May 26th, 2009 06:21 PM
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Costco requires membership to purchase anything from their store. they check to see if you have a card when you enter, but if you do not have one, they will still let you in under the assumption that you are going to go apply for a membership. when you get to check out, they require your card. no card, no purchase.
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May 26th, 2009 06:30 PM
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Surprises me that a state like Arizona has a 'sign statute', here in Fla you rarely see signs because they don't have any standing
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