Reveal you carry publicly, or spread positive message?

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    Reveal you carry publicly, or spread positive message?

    C9H13NO3's post about the two crooks had me thinking about something...

    Suppose the news crew showed, had somehow found out what had happened, and wanted to interview the witness (C9H13NO3) who had drew his weapon and more or less saved the day. Do you give the public TV interview and reveal to the whole city that you carry? Or do you decline even though a positive story about a CC'er saving the day is always refreshing...I suppose you could agree to an anonymous interview...but I'd be tempted to to give it publicly. Will make people think about it more I think if you can put a face with a story where a gun could very well have, or did, save someone's life. If it's just a blurred face, or a audio interview, I'm not sure it would have the same impact.
    It is utterly illogical to believe that passing laws to reduce gun violence will be successful when those who are commiting the gun violence do not obey the law.

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    Your question makes a huge leap of faith in the media and their cooperation with a citizen CC. True that the police and media have a symbiotic relationship. We ordinary citizens don't share that. My advice and action is to steer clear of the media - totally. This is one case where being a statistic is good.
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    Avoid the media, my father learned from others mistake and didn't repeat it. The media locally may do a fair job, but if it gets past them you not like the results. Local news maybe trust worthy, but national will not treat you fairly or ethically.
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    I would avoid the media totally. The only exception I would make would be if I owned the news outlet.

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    I was a PIO Spokesman for many years. You quickly learn that the media can take a one hour interview, twist it into 45 seconds, and make everyone believe you wanted to rape a nun in your own voice. Say NOTHING to media.
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    I totally agree! My house burned when my daughter was a baby. The very first thing I did was to hand her out the window of the bedroom to a waiting friend who was spending the night with me. She climbed out of the window and then I handed the baby to her. Well after that I called 911, closed the doors off to the fire and exited the house. Before it was all over the news media had reported that I LEFT the baby in the house and tried to get to her by a window. Made it look like I left the house and then went to get her from the outside. The LOVE to make the news sound exciting and they want to top the competitors newcast. They don't care how the story gets turned around. Of course by the time I had threatened a lawsuit and screamed at them, they removed the story from the next news cast. NO Never talk to the news media unless like Rock and Glock said.
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    Sorry, I too would NOT trust the press nor would I speak to them.
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    Especially if an incident just happen and you could face criminal charges, say nothing at all!

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    Maybe a better question is what CC heroes has the media lauded? That guy with the watch repair store who defended it with strategically positioned handguns and got shot at least once. Anyone else you can think of?
    Last edited by Pistology; June 2nd, 2009 at 10:07 PM. Reason: Corrected store from jewelry to watch repair and will give name of owner if I can find it.
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    Everthing you see on TV and the news is always true. You mean that it is not?

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    Yeah, I'd avoid the media like the plague.

    Too many things could go wrong and make you regret your decision to ever speak about said event.

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    Years ago, the local media was doing a story about a convicted sex offender/pedophile/child pornographer in my area. They dug back into their file video, and came up with a picture of me, along with the name plate from my office door, which they showed as they reported on the sentencing following his conviction.

    I got a phone call from a friend, thought she was crazy, but went home to check it out. By the time I got home, there were several phone calls from people who had seen the same thing, and called to let me know.

    My experience is that Murphy is nearly 100% trustworthy. If there is a way to have something go wrong, it will.

    Want to trust your carry license, your reputation, and your freedom to these bastions of competence and unbiased reporting? Hmm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by miklcolt45 View Post
    Years ago, the local media was doing a story about a convicted sex offender/pedophile/child pornographer in my area. They dug back into their file video, and came up with a picture of me, along with the name plate from my office door, which they showed as they reported on the sentencing following his conviction.

    I got a phone call from a friend, thought she was crazy, but went home to check it out. By the time I got home, there were several phone calls from people who had seen the same thing, and called to let me know.

    My experience is that Murphy is nearly 100% trustworthy. If there is a way to have something go wrong, it will.

    Want to trust your carry license, your reputation, and your freedom to these bastions of competence and unbiased reporting? Hmm?
    What did you do? Did they do a retraction?
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    Media Treatment of Concealed Carry Practitioner

    There was an attempted jewelry store robbery here in Omaha a couple of summers (?) back. Long story short, in about 8 - 10 seconds from start to finish, two shopowners turned one would-be robber into a paraplegic and facilitated his partner's dispensing several quarts of blood onto the sidewalk in front of the store before he finally bled out. Local (as TerriLi noted) print and electronic media coverage after the incident was what I would describe as balanced and neutral.

    Background on the incident was that the robbers had previously cased the store and weren't exactly stealthy about it, because the shopowners noticed them. They came back later to do a storm-smash-and-grab, but the owners were ready. This was used as one of the case studies during the classroom portion of my concealed carry training.

    This is significantly off-topic, but I think it's still relevant: the Von Maur shooting in December 07 has turned into one of the anti-gun crowd's rallying cries, thanks in no small part to how the media (mostly national, but IMHO also some local outlets) has skewed certain aspects of the coverage. Granted, there were certainly some red flags that were missed, as well as some issues with why the shooter had access to his father's guns. That said, I believe there has been too much focus on the type of gun used and not enough on the need to have kept the gun out of the kid's hands in the first place.

    Had Omaha PD not gotten there as quickly as they did, a lot of people (myself included) are convinced this would have been much worse than it ended up. And for those who are wondering, the mall where the shooting occurred is a "gun-free zone."

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    I would not speak to the media in such a case. The first bad consequence is letting everyone who ever heard of me know I carry, erasing all my efforts at concealment. Secondly, there is only a microscopic chance that the media would report that a nonLEO used a firearm for a good reason.

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