2008 Minnesota CCW Statistics

2008 Minnesota CCW Statistics

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    2008 Minnesota CCW Statistics

    Number of permits applied for, issued, suspended, revoked,
    Voided and denied,
    Number of Applications - 2008 21,646

    Status of 2008 Applications on December 31, 2008
    Issued - 5 year 20,830
    Issued - Emergency/Expired 39
    Denied 269
    Suspended 6
    Revoked 4
    Void 7
    Cancelled 7
    On-Hold/Appealed 14
    Pending 517

    It's of interest to me how few are Suspended or Revoked Although I'm not sure what the difference is or what the Void catagory is either.
    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.


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    Is that 20,830 or 2,083? Being a native of the Frozen North, I'm a bit curious!

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    Sorry copy & paist error I fixed it
    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.

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    Coool! I may have to move back there yet!!!

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    Minnesota has approximately 56,000 concealed carry permits. Last year TEN were suspended or revoked. Do you know how amazing that is? Concealed carry permit holders are INCREDIBLY law abiding.
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    It's of interest to me how few are Suspended or Revoked Although I'm not sure what the difference is or what the Void catagory is either.
    Don't know for sure, but I would guess Voided would be from people who moved out of state or have passed away.

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    To clarify, Minnesota does not have concealed carry permits, as such.
    A Minnesota permit is a permit to carry a pistol. It does not restrict
    carry to concealed or open, both are legal.

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    Last year TEN were suspended or revoked.
    I wonder what the difference is between "suspended" and "revoked"?

    Regardless, only 10 permits suspended/revoked is amazing. Its yet more proof of the overwhelmingly law-abiding nature of carry licensees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ike View Post
    To clarify, Minnesota does not have concealed carry permits, as such.
    A Minnesota permit is a permit to carry a pistol. It does not restrict
    carry to concealed or open, both are legal.
    +1.

    Though, I would expect people from other states to make that mistake, as most of them have CHP's. But, everyone in MN should understand the law well enough to know this.

    I still see some MN instructors who advertise "concealed carry permits" ... makes me wonder how they can be an instructor if they aren't aware that the word "conceal" is never mentioned in the law, and in fact the word hurts us because it suggests that our permit is something less than what it really is.

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    Michigan isn't quite as crime free, but still pretty good average

    From Michigan State Police, totals for 2007/2008
    Only 312 revoked, over 26,000 applied for

    CONCEALED PISTOL LICENSING ANNUAL REPORT

    STATEWIDE TOTALS
    GENERAL INFORMATION
    JULY 1, 2007 - JUNE 30, 2008
    Applications Issued: 26578
    Applications Pending: 6088
    Applications Withdrawn: 6
    Applications Denied: 744
    Licenses Revoked: 312
    Under 21: 1
    Non US Citizen or Non Resident 4
    Training Not Completed: 5
    Subject to Mental Health Order: 4
    Subject to Protection Order: 1
    Felony Conviction: 290
    Dishonorable Discharge: 0
    Misdemeanor Conviction: 183
    Other Mental Health History: 13
    Licensing Board Decision (2): 243
    Carried in Pistol Free Zone: 1
    Failure to Disclose (2nd Offense): 1
    Carried Under Influence: 15
    Felony or Misdemeanor Charge: 244
    Other: 51
    Number of Suicides (3): 29
    Average Cost Per Permit (4): $69
    Mean Amount of Time for FBI Clearance(5): Less than 1 Day
    Median Amount of Time for FBI Clearance (5): 5 Days
    Shortest Amount of Time for FBI Clearance (5): Less than 1 Day
    Longest Amount of Time for FBI Clearance (5): 14 Days
    (1) Applications Received is defined as the number of requests for fingerprint clearances received by the MSP for
    the purpose of obtaining a license to carry a pistol concealed. This number is entered manually each year.
    (3) Information on suicides was obtained from the Department of Community Health (DCH) and compared to the
    concealed pistol database.
    (4) Average Cost Per Permit is based on information submitted via a survey of each county. Not all counties
    submitted this information.
    (5) The Mean, Median, Shortest Amount of Time for FBI Clearance, and Longest Amount of Time for FBI
    Clearance is based on a statistically significant sample of requests.
    (2) Licensing Board Decision is based on MCL 28.425b(7)(n), which states that issuing a license would be
    detrimental to the safety of the applicant or to any other individual.
    Footnotes
    Applications Received (1): 33411

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    Very cool! As I live in this all too democratic state, it's nice to know that we have such a high number who carry. Thanks!
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