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Nj travel

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    Nj travel

    I have 3 permits, VA, non-resident PA and NH. Last week I traveled in VA, WVA, MD, PA, and last but not least, NJ. I was not legal to carry in MD or NJ, but while traveling through, I could keep my G26 locked in a steel case w/cable in the car trunk. We wanted to stop at Atlantic City for 2 nights so now I've got a BIG problem.

    So I called the NJ State Police and told them my plans and was told to keep the gun locked in the car trunk and case at all times and it would not be a problem. I kept their name extension number just in case.
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    Wow. The Fed law is to pass thru and not stop except for emergency's. I don't know to sat as it is NJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccman View Post
    Wow. The Fed law is to pass thru and not stop except for emergency's. I don't know to sat as it is NJ.
    It was an emergency, my wife had to play the slots!
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    This is why I no longer go to the Socialist State of NJ. Even though I was once from there.
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    NJ is a pain, even for the residents. Lock box, magazine out, in trunk. That makes for one heck of a quick self protection issue should the need arise. "Oh, excuse me. I will be with you in a minute. I need to get something out of my trunk, assemble it, and then we can finish this discussion!" What a freaking farse!!! I too have to travel in NJ sometimes and it stays in the trunk except when I go into the motel/hotel. It goes to my room. When I leave, it goes back out to the trunk.

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    And no hollowpoints unless you are on your way to the range...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy McC View Post
    I have 3 permits, VA, non-resident PA and NH. Last week I traveled in VA, WVA, MD, PA, and last but not least, NJ. I was not legal to carry in MD or NJ, but while traveling through, I could keep my G26 locked in a steel case w/cable in the car trunk. We wanted to stop at Atlantic City for 2 nights so now I've got a BIG problem.

    So I called the NJ State Police and told them my plans and was told to keep the gun locked in the car trunk and case at all times and it would not be a problem. I kept their name extension number just in case.
    I hope you have the conversation on tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmilchman View Post
    I hope you have the conversation on tape.
    I wouldn't want to record someone and break the LAW.
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    It was an emergency, my wife had to play the slots!

    I need to find Me a Wife who play's the slots.
    I got to head to NJ Sunday night for a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy McC View Post
    I have 3 permits, VA, non-resident PA and NH. Last week I traveled in VA, WVA, MD, PA, and last but not least, NJ. I was not legal to carry in MD or NJ, but while traveling through, I could keep my G26 locked in a steel case w/cable in the car trunk. We wanted to stop at Atlantic City for 2 nights so now I've got a BIG problem.

    So I called the NJ State Police and told them my plans and was told to keep the gun locked in the car trunk and case at all times and it would not be a problem. I kept their name extension number just in case.
    With the way the laws are in Joisey, I wouldn't chance it regardless of what the State Trooper said.

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    There seems to be a "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" tone to this thread. Just so there is no misunderstanding, you exposed yourself to a possible (probable) felony conviction. What you did is illegal even for NJ residents with valid FOID cards. Federal peaceable journey laws apply only if passing through the state and the firearm is legal in both the state of origin and destination - it does not allow for any stops along the way in states where it is illegal to do so under state law (NJ). Kid all you want, but had you been caught, regardless of what you were told by the NJSP (weak defense), it would have meant the end of firearms ownership in your lifetime - and that would probably be one of the less onerous consequences. Glad you made it back to safety this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pizza Bob View Post
    There seems to be a "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" tone to this thread. Just so there is no misunderstanding, you exposed yourself to a possible (probable) felony conviction. What you did is illegal even for NJ residents with valid FOID cards. Federal peaceable journey laws apply only if passing through the state and the firearm is legal in both the state of origin and destination - it does not allow for any stops along the way in states where it is illegal to do so under state law (NJ). Kid all you want, but had you been caught, regardless of what you were told by the NJSP (weak defense), it would have meant the end of firearms ownership in your lifetime - and that would probably be one of the less onerous consequences. Glad you made it back to safety this time.

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    Call 1.609.882.2000 and ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy McC View Post
    Call 1.609.882.2000 and ask.
    Tell that to the judge and see where it gets you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy McC View Post
    I have 3 permits, VA, non-resident PA and NH. Last week I traveled in VA, WVA, MD, PA, and last but not least, NJ. I was not legal to carry in MD or NJ, but while traveling through, I could keep my G26 locked in a steel case w/cable in the car trunk. We wanted to stop at Atlantic City for 2 nights so now I've got a BIG problem.

    So I called the NJ State Police and told them my plans and was told to keep the gun locked in the car trunk and case at all times and it would not be a problem. I kept their name extension number just in case.
    Don't bother. NJ is SO gun-unfriendly, it's not worth it. Look into Philadelphia Park Casino, in Bensalem. Motels nearby, close to the PA Turnpike, and most importantly, PA is cool. I doubt you can carry IN the casino itself, but CC everywhere else is okay. I lived in NJ for most of my life, and now that I'm in PA, I don't even like to go back to visit.
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    Wow!
    I asked the SP if I could transport into the state, leave the guns at my inlaws and go to a shooting range. They wouldn't give me a concrete answer but the impression I got was the officer could arrest me and "leave it up to the judge."
    I guess maybe the trooper didn't know the law too well and assumed if it was out of reach that it was OK, but I don't think that's the case.

    You said you were in A.C. for 2 days, a hotel room would probably be a (legally) better place for it,IMO. It could be possibly argued that the hotel room is a "rental property."
    "The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree..."
    Nunn v. State GA 1848

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