Good: MI State University to Allow Guns on Campus

[Trumpetchuck]

Guns are still not allowed in dorms or classes, but it's a start.

The State News: MSU allows people to carry concealed firearms on campus

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[Jackle1886]

Way to go MSU! Any win is a win.

[retsupt99]

Makes sense to me, I wish FL would allow at least that much.

[pcon]

nice! I want to say the UofM enacted this fairly recently too...I could be mistaken though

[tbroy]

It's about time Moo U got it tune with MI law. I always fealt leary when I drove through campus...even though it didn't stop me from carrying.

[PastorPack]

One extremely soft target just got a little harder.

[Cupcake]

Woohoo! I've never been there, but hopefully (Wishfully?) the other stat Universities get in line.

[RoadRunner71]

nice! I want to say the UofM enacted this fairly recently too...I could be mistaken though

According to the article, U of M restricts on the entire campus and is prosecuted by the county.

This is even more important when you consider that MSU "campus" includes all of the agricultural land to the south of the main campus. This has always been an issue around Lansing and East Lansing.

[ccw9mm]

Can't carry into buildings or dormitories. So, that pretty much excludes all staff, faculty and students from being able to carry on campus, except when whizzing through on an errand that doesn't go into any buildings.

Still, it's a dent in the armor. If they see no blood running in the streets due to upstanding citizens spontaneously combusting, they might well come around to see that upstanding citizens are no threat at all.

[grady]

Yep, a small victory since carrying into buildings is still off-limits. Perhaps it helps those who drive into campus and have or leave a gun in their car.

But human nutrition senior Eric Gurzelo questioned whether the change would make a difference.

“Looking at the Virginia Tech massacre, the first person shot was a professor who had a concealed weapon in his car,” he said.

This guy gets it: a gun in your car, when you are inside a building with an active shooter, won't help you much. (I do remember one incident where someone went to a car, retrieved a gun, and subdued a gunman, but that is rare.)

Better than nothing, and hopefully it's only a start.

[mathewsman]

thats good now they need to let the professors be able to carry also

[socal2310]

This guy gets it: a gun in your car, when you are inside a building with an active shooter, won't help you much. (I do remember one incident where someone went to a car, retrieved a gun, and subdued a gunman, but that is rare.)

Appalachian School of Law in 2002.

[grady]

Appalachian School of Law in 2002.

Thanks. That's the one.

[Cupcake]

Can't carry into buildings or dormitories. So, that pretty much excludes all staff, faculty and students from being able to carry on campus, except when whizzing through on an errand that doesn't go into any buildings.

Still, it's a dent in the armor. If they see no blood running in the streets due to upstanding citizens spontaneously combusting, they might well come around to see that upstanding citizens are no threat at all.

Still curious what the wording will be. If they fall in line with state law, then it's just Classrooms and Dormitories. The rest of the building (Hallways, common areas) are fine. Many, many employees never set foot in the classrooms.

[falcon1]

Yep, a small victory since carrying into buildings is still off-limits. Perhaps it helps those who drive into campus and have or leave a gun in their car.

Something like this would be very helpful to me in Tennessee. When I go to pick up my oldest son from campus, it is a pain in the neck to stop outside of campus, disarm, lock the unloaded firearm in one safe, the ammunition in another locking case, then proceed onto campus. Reverse when leaving; lather--rinse--repeat when coming back. Even then, the wording in Tennessee law is vague, and one could still be charged with a felony if some prosecutor wanted to make a name for himself or herself.