This is a discussion on I created it, now what do I do? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by dukalmighty I think your friend needs to grow up and realise he ain't carrying a squirt gun,he will either be arrested at ...
Sounds like he needs to take a good gun safety course.
if nothing else, tell him to check into a utah non-resident permit. i just sent off for mine and it was only $165 for the class and the permit fee.
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If he gets arrested thats his fault, what really disturbs me more than anything is leaving a loaded gun around his infant children, this gentleman doesnt seem to be a very responsible person.
When it comes to guns you either play by the rules or you don't play at all. There is no grey area.
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I guess I need to explain a bit more since the thread is taking the course of what is going to happen if the kids get ahold of the gun. Maybe I wasn't clear when I talked about the end table or fridge, etc.
He would place the gun on the end table while he sits in his chair watching TV, since he had no holster and it was being carried in his back pocket, it went on the end table when he sat down. The top of the fridge was used when he was outside with the kids or whatever and didn't feel that it would stay in his pocket. I didn't mean for folks to get the idea that he would just leave the gun laying around and walk off and leave it where the kids would have easy access to it.
The issue I am trying to cure him of is carrying outside of his home or car without the permit. By his admission two times by accident. Yea, he is quite a bit younger than us, actually his wife is probably young enough to be our daughter, and may not be as responsible as I would like, but don't think that he is as bad as some of the post are indicating. There hasn't been any, at least to my knowlege, instances of allowing his children to come into jeopardy.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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This guy is knowingly braking the law. It sounds like you've explained what will happen to him if he gets caught . You have done your job the rest is up to him.
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Have him go to the web site of the Las Vegas Review Journal )Las Vegas News, Business, Entertainment Information - ReviewJournal.com). Then have him look for the story that occurred I believe Monday, where a man had his kids in the car, and stopped at a drug store drive in window. His gun as on the console. While at the window, he heard a gunshot, and turned to see his son bleeding from the head. He took the child t a hospital, where he died. Father is now in jail on felony child endangerment charges. He has a dead son, and most likely a prison term coming, and of course as a felon, no gun rights. As far as the car is concerned, suggest a center of mass car safe, that he can secure his weapon in when going into a prohibited area.
I know that this may sound a tad "radical" but do you think having "Joe" put a "no handgun" sign somewhere in his car where he'll see it is a good idea? In this case if he sees the no handgun sign it might remind him to leave the concealed handgun at home?
What do you think? I think that he'll get a reminder before he leave the house with an "illegal" concealed handgun.
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Since, he said he can't afford his chl, you should print out some of the fines for illegal carry and show him how much more it would cost him when he gets caught.