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    I have been told by two recent grads of diffrent ccw courses that their instructors said, in sc without a ccw permit, the only legal way to transport was to lock your unloaded pistol in the glovebox and all ammo locked in the trunk.
    sc 16-23-20, 9a and 16 does not say that.

    SECTION 16-23-20. Unlawful carrying of handgun; exceptions.
    It is unlawful for anyone to carry about the person any handgun, whether concealed or not, except as follows, unless otherwise specifically prohibited by law:
    (1) regular, salaried law enforcement officers, and reserve police officers of a state agency, municipality, or county of the State, uncompensated Governor's constables, law enforcement officers of the federal government or other states when they are carrying out official duties while in this State, deputy enforcement officers of the Natural Resources Enforcement Division of the Department of Natural Resources, and retired commissioned law enforcement officers employed as private detectives or private investigators;
    (2) members of the Armed Forces of the United States, the National Guard, organized reserves, or the State Militia when on duty;
    (3) members, or their invited guests, of organizations authorized by law to purchase or receive firearms from the United States or this State or regularly enrolled members, or their invited guests, of clubs organized for the purpose of target shooting or collecting modern and antique firearms while these members, or their invited guests, are at or going to or from their places of target practice or their shows and exhibits;
    (4) licensed hunters or fishermen who are engaged in hunting or fishing or going to or from their places of hunting or fishing while in a vehicle or on foot;
    (5) a person regularly engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, repossessing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of this person, while possessing, using, or carrying a handgun in the usual or ordinary course of the business;
    (6) guards authorized by law to possess handguns and engaged in protection of property of the United States or any agency of the United States;
    (7) members of authorized military or civil organizations while parading or when going to and from the places of meeting of their respective organizations;
    (8) a person in his home or upon his real property or a person who has the permission of the owner or the person in legal possession or the person in legal control of the home or real property;
    (9) a person in a vehicle if the handgun is:
    (a) secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle; however, this item is not violated if the glove compartment, console, or trunk is opened in the presence of a law enforcement officer for the sole purpose of retrieving a driver's license, registration, or proof of insurance;
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    (b) concealed on or about his person, and he has a valid concealed weapons permit pursuant to the provisions of Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23;
    (10) a person carrying a handgun unloaded and in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or fixed place of business or while in the process of changing or moving one's residence or changing or moving one's fixed place of business;
    (11) a prison guard while engaged in his official duties;
    (12) a person who is granted a permit under provision of law by the State Law Enforcement Division to carry a handgun about his person, under conditions set forth in the permit, and while transferring the handgun between the permittee's person and a location specified in item (9);
    (13) the owner or the person in legal possession or the person in legal control of a fixed place of business, while at the fixed place of business, and the employee of a fixed place of business, other than a business subject to Section 16-23-465, while at the place of business; however, the employee may exercise this privilege only after: (a) acquiring a permit pursuant to item (12), and (b) obtaining the permission of the owner or person in legal control or legal possession of the premises;
    (14) a person engaged in firearms-related activities while on the premises of a fixed place of business which conducts, as a regular course of its business, activities related to sale, repair, pawn, firearms training, or use of firearms, unless the premises is posted with a sign limiting possession of firearms to holders of permits issued pursuant to item (12);
    (15) a person while transferring a handgun directly from or to a vehicle and a location specified in this section where one may legally possess the handgun.
    (16) Any person on a motorcycle when the pistol is secured in a closed saddlebag or other similar closed accessory container attached, whether permanently or temporarily, to the motorcycle.

    the same statutes are on sc.gov, sled's website and handgunlaws sc page.
    what to believe?
    I don't want to argue or flame anyone, I just want to be legal.
    if anyone knows of other statutes in ref to non ccw vehicle transportation in sc please post them.
    thanks

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    You, I, or any other person - CWP or not - can carry loaded in a glove box. Stay safe.
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    Who you gonna believe the law you read yourself or hearsay of others.:)
    Unlike alot of laws it is pretty clearcut and not open to much interpetation.
    and according to my instructor closed means just that it does not have to be locked and the weapon can be loaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otr1952 View Post
    I have been told by two recent grads of diffrent ccw courses that their instructors said, in sc without a ccw permit, the only legal way to transport was to lock your unloaded pistol in the glovebox and all ammo locked in the trunk.
    sc 16-23-20, 9a and 16 does not say that.

    SECTION 16-23-20.

    ....

    thanks
    Please, why don't you take a copy of 16-23-20 to them and help them to understand these exceptions? Might be a good lesson for them an a good lesson for you on how to deal with folks like this. Well, if they are truly interested...
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    I would point out the law to your instructors also, as they are incorrect, it is completely legal to carry a loaded handgun in you console of glove box.

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    Anyone can carry a loaded handgun in their vehicle in any of these areas :
    1. In the glovebox (does not have to be locked)
    2. In the console
    3. In the trunk - trunk being defined as behind the last row of seating of a vehicle (because SUVs don't have the trunk) and stored in a case with an integral fastener.

    And you are not required to notify LE when carrying in these areas unless he directly asks you (but I have as a courtesy.)
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    The instructors are wrong. You are perfectly legal with or without a permit to carry in your glove box or console, loaded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by otr1952 View Post
    I have been told by two recent grads of diffrent ccw courses that their instructors said, in sc without a ccw permit, the only legal way to transport was to lock your unloaded pistol in the glovebox and all ammo locked in the trunk.
    Obviously they are dead wrong.

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    I think the "instructors" should be informed by someone......

    Be Alert and Stay Safe

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    Maybe we should give a benefit of doubt to the instructors as it was told third hand. Perhaps the students simply did not hear things right. The instructors may have been even talking about Federal interstate transport laws or something and they got it confused.

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    The instructors are wrong. You are perfectly legal with or without a permit to carry in your glove box or console, loaded.
    That's the answer. Also, you are not violated if you need to reach into that compartment (exposing the weapon) for your license, registration, or insurance card when a LEO request these items.

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