Please help me settle a debate about banks.
This is a discussion on Please help me settle a debate about banks. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Ok, here's the background.
In NC, you may carry a firearm into a bank (unless posted) as long as you OPEN CARRY. Concealed firearms are ...
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July 27th, 2009 07:12 PM
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Please help me settle a debate about banks.
Ok, here's the background.
In NC, you may carry a firearm into a bank (unless posted) as long as you OPEN CARRY. Concealed firearms are not allowed. I think it's also the same with police stations.
However -- and here's the debate -- NO FIREARMS in Federal buildings, among other places.
Today, a friend of mine who happens to be a bank manager, said to me that banks are actually a Federal Building, and thus no carry at all in any NC bank. (Is that because they are FDIC? Or because it's a Federal Crime to rob a bank?) But Credit unions may be different, she said, because they are not FDIC. I don't think that's right, otherwise why would the sheet they hand out in CC class say no CC in banks, but OC is legal, but NO-C in Federal buildings? But then, she IS a bank manager, so she ought to know, right? In theory? I didn't want to debate her, but I may call her up tonight and "nyah nyah" if she's wrong here.
So 2 things, please.
1) Is a bank a federal building? What does that make a Credit Union?
2) You know how they have mini-branches of banks in the supermarket sometimes, or in Wally-World? Well does that make the supermarket/WW a "Federal Building" then? And if so, does that mean we can't CC --or carry at all now for that matter-- into a place where there is a mini-branch on the grounds?
Help! Any of you CCH Instructors out there wanna weigh in? Much obliged.
Thanks.
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July 27th, 2009 07:12 PM
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July 27th, 2009 07:15 PM
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A bank is not a federal building. That manager is full of it. Unless the federal government owns it or pays the rent, its not a federal building.
I have no idea about NC law, can't help with the rest.
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July 27th, 2009 07:16 PM
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A bank is not a federal building.
Federal Protective Service oversees the security at all federal buildings.
No guns, knives, or pepper spray is allowed in federal buildings.
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July 27th, 2009 07:18 PM
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Your friend is wrong. "Financial Institutions" are off limits for concealed carry, but open carry is permissible. Federal is a different story... no concealed carry, no open carry: No guns in federal buildings.
ETA: Patti beat me to it!
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July 27th, 2009 07:19 PM
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As already stated, a bank is not a federal building.
Also, tell your friend to quit smoking crack. It is beginning to effect her work.
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July 27th, 2009 07:21 PM
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Banks and or credit unions are not federal buildings, as long as your not talking about the federal reserve banks, but we don't get to shop there. So like Sixto said the manager is full of something.
Banks as well as credit unions are federally insured, and regulated by that is way different than ownership.
As far as the mini branches, as long as your not going to the bank in the Wally World you just go about your business. As soon as you would walk into or up to the bank, then you would need to switch to OC IMO.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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July 27th, 2009 07:24 PM
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I think everyone coveredit, and Sixto is correct, tell her to quit the crack.
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July 27th, 2009 07:26 PM
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As stated above, (banks are not Fed bldgs.) however banks do adhere to Federal Regulations. (Doesn't make 'em Feds though.)
My wife used to work for a private bank and used to tell me about the Federal Regs. she had to jump through to stay in compliance.
You are good to OC as per NC statutes, I'd say.
(But that's me talking from way out here in CO!)
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It’s so much easier now days, to "Love and honor" my wife, when she is armed, and shoots a better group than I do. (Till death do us part, eh?)
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July 27th, 2009 07:28 PM
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Some one needs to seriously stop promoting the crack smokers to management positions.
I know not what this "overkill" means.
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July 27th, 2009 07:32 PM
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I believe that the "Peter Principle" is alive and well!
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July 27th, 2009 07:36 PM
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What's the peter principle?
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July 27th, 2009 07:38 PM
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July 27th, 2009 07:47 PM
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The Federal Reserve is not even a Federal Building.
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July 27th, 2009 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
QKShooter
You don't want to know and the comment is off topic anyway.
The bank is one of the most likely places that you may just find yourself needing a firearm.
I would not DO my banking at any bank that would not permit me in with a firearm.
In PA you can just continue to carry concealed and go in.
I carry concealed into my bank at least three days a week AND
I can also take my dog in with me. 
Well QK, I don't know of many places that will make you leave your seeing eye dog outside!!


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July 27th, 2009 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
Bunny
What's the peter principle?
The Peter Principle is the principle that "In a Hierarchy Every Employee Tends to Rise to His Level of Incompetence," formulated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter"
The government is a good example of "The Peter Principle".
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