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    Rules at a Gun Show...

    I recently decided to visit a gun show in Washington and was surprised that I couldn't carry at the show.

    I was hoping that if they wanted people passionate about guns there, I would see most people open carrying.

    Do all gun shows ban loaded guns? I haven't attended one yet so this maybe a naive question. Since they don't allow loaded guns I see no point in carrying an unloaded gun there in the first place.

    This was the reply I got:
    Yes, ALL firearms must be cleared and tied by security at the gate. It's advised that you clear it prior to coming to the entrance, i.e. in your car or at home. There is a barrel just outside the security area to clear it but if you bring a loaded gun in, your out...quickly. This is for everyones safety and also the requirement of the fairgrounds.
    Be advised that there are no loaded mags permitted either.
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    They do that for insurance and safety reasons. They all do that because there are a lot of handling if firearms there. You would nt let anyone handle your guns if they were loaded would you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfshead View Post
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    Do all gun shows ban loaded guns?

    Since they don't allow loaded guns I see no point in carrying an unloaded gun there in the first place.

    This was the reply I got:
    Yes, ALL firearms must be cleared and tied by security at the gate. It's advised that you clear it prior to coming to the entrance, i.e. in your car or at home. There is a barrel just outside the security area to clear it but if you bring a loaded gun in, your out...quickly. This is for everyones safety and also the requirement of the fairgrounds.
    Be advised that there are no loaded mags permitted either.
    Yep, that's pretty well it at the gun shows I do. Customers can neither have loaded guns nor magazines.

    Ever been in a building when a gun goes off - - a real attention getter.
    Several years back one of the dealers was showing a potential customer the gun the dealer carrys to with him. The dealer neglected to unload it. Luckily, no one was injured when the gun went off.

    It is presumed when you bring a gun in it is to trade, get something to fit it or have it worked on. In other words have other people handling it. Can't you see the dangers here??

    Also, there have been cases where radical anti-gun types look at guns and slip a round in the chamber. So if you notice the dealer clear or check the gun before or after handing it to you that is why, and if he doesn't you may mention it to them.

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    Same rules in Roanoke VA, likely for the same reason. I don't like it, and feel that I ought to be able to carry concealed. Of course, I mean REALLY concealed: I don't have the money to buy a new holster, so there would be no need to handle it. But from the point of view of the organizers, anyone carrying could be assumed to be there for accessories for their carry weapon, and so would be likely to pull it to check fit and such. I don't see this as quite the same as the "we are scared of guns so we don't want anyone to have them" signs at other businesses.
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    i have to say that i appreciate the policy, quite honestly......

    i am quite confident of my ability to safely handle a loaded firearm....but some of these clowns you see walking around at shows make me nervous, even with an UNLOADED gun......

    there is always some dumb-ass who picks up a gun off a table, sweeps about ten people with it, dry fires it about 799 times and i just cringe thinking if that gun was loaded how many people would be killed.....

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    No loaded weapons is pretty standard for gun shows everywhere. also the checked and strapped is pretty much standard. It isn't just the gun show patrons this applyies to, the vendors also can not have loaded unchecked weapons as well, at least at the shows I've been to.

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    This is standard procedure down here in Texas, too. Peace officers are OK to carry loaded, but are expected to keep their weapons holstered, unless, of course, duty calls. The objective is that loaded firearms not be handled, by anybody, on the show floor. I am in favor of these rules. There are enough SDs in gun shows, even with these rules in place. (SDs = stupid discharges.)

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    Obviously there are some who carry guns who should not due to their lack of safety training or discipline.
    I notice most here seem to support the no guns policies. Why then would you fault WalMart or a mall if they prohibited guns? Aren't the ones who carry there the same ones who would carry at gun shows?

    I think that a CHL should be able to carry at gun shows. If it were up to me I would post a sign that would say something like this.

    All guns must be unloaded and tied prior to entering the premises. CC is permitted, but the gun must not be shown or handled while here. If you want to show or handle the gun go outside and meet the same requirements as if you were selling it.

    Failure to obey these rules will result in you being escorted off the premises, and a complaint will be lodged with the police.

    As far as I am concerned anyone who cannot CC without handling their gun when such a rule is stated should not have a license, and should lose their license for some period say 60 days.

    To borrow some statements when some place prohibits carrying, "Should a person be left without the ability to protect himself and his family at a gun show?"

    Also what about you folks who say you refuse to go anyplace you cannot carry? Do you go to such gun shows?

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    I don't mind it... it doesn't make sense that you can't carry there since we are all about carrying everywhere, but who in their stupid mind is going to hold up a gun show? or rob anyone there!? LOL

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    Vince,
    Did you go to the show?
    I was thinking of going early tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taseal View Post
    I don't mind it... it doesn't make sense that you can't carry there since we are all about carrying everywhere, but who in their stupid mind is going to hold up a gun show? or rob anyone there!? LOL
    What about the parking lot when you are walking to and from your car?

    There are a lot of comments to the effect that you never know when an attack will happen, and one needs to always prepared? Do those who espouse that view stay away from gun shows?


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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfshead View Post
    the requirement of the fairgrounds.
    It may be a common gun show rule but unless the fairgrounds are private property, the local municipality can not restrict concealed carry.

    Check RCW 9.41.290 State preemption
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    All gun shows ive been to are no loaded guns.

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    If you are concealing, who is going to know? It's not against the law to carry at a gun show in NV. So if they ask, I'm not carrying. That is of course they have hand held metal detectors..then you might be have to tell them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcealedXDm View Post
    It may be a common gun show rule but unless the fairgrounds are private property, the local municipality can not restrict concealed carry.

    Check RCW 9.41.290 State preemption
    It's not a local municipality rule; it's a gun show promoter rule and I have never been to a show that allowed loaded carrying - and I have been to them in about a dozen states.
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