Encountering another CCWer while in a situation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorlk View Post

    I carry to protect myself and my family - no one else. My permit does NOT make me a LEO.

    So true. +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRonB View Post
    I thought the good samaritan laws would allow you to perform first aid even with expired training without risk of a lawsuit. Would it not?
    To answer your question I am a bit restricted in what I can do. I can perform basic first aid, mainly what any reasonable person could do. Like pressure, elevation, treat for shock. The kicker for me is that I know how to treat various serious injuries that could occur during a shooting or car accident. I've never had to but I have a good idea how to stop a lung from collapsing after a shot to the chest. If I get the sucking chest would stabilized, lung recovers some, patient OK, then I'm OK. I do something wrong and I am exceeding the good samaritan laws. I have over stepped my training, as it has expired. Could I walk away and allow someone to die in that situation? I doubt it. As I like saying, bad CPR and first aid is better than no CPR and first aid, cause dead is dead. It's a tough call these days. Your right, it sux!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefjason View Post
    To answer your question I am a bit restricted in what I can do.
    Maybe in NC.

    However, like CHPs, carry, and gun law in general it is a State-by-State thing.

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    Vermont provides immunity from liability specifically for untrained rescuers, as long as they don't screw up really badly (defined as gross negligence). However, Vermont is unique in another way. All other states provide immunity if a person chooses to help, but do not require us to aid our fellow humans. Vermont does, however -- the state's good Samaritan law actually orders citizens to help those in need.
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    Frankly, I don't know how I missed this thread up until now; and to stumble across this with no popcorn in the house is very disheartening.
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    I'm glad the OP posted this....

    I've seen lots of comments how "I would do this.... " that I have diagreement with... 1) because you are not an LEO and the situation does not require use of a gun, 2) because unless things are clear intentions can be mis-interpreted by someone else when you pull a gun, and we need to remember how other CCW's around may react to that.

    I think it is something everyone needs to consider.

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    A couple of young sheepdogs in serious need of some training of, when to and when not to intervene.. I hope they get off easy, but learn a good lesson from their experience.
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    Well im gonna go ahead and say this, no I wouldnt have pulled my weapon the perp, nor would have pulled my weapon on the man holding the other weapon, with that said, I would and will help someone in need...

    If I witness someone being wrongfully abused, out numbered by numerous thugs, children being beaten and so on, sorry, but I feel it is not right to just sit by and watch someone being abused, beaten and so forth....

    Maybe im wrong, im not sure. But I do know one thing, as an [B]AMERICAN,[B]I find it my duty and responsibility to helo out another american in desperate need of help....

    With all that said, I do think that there is other ways to help out without drawing doen on somebody

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellyII View Post
    Well im gonna go ahead and say this, no I wouldnt have pulled my weapon the perp, nor would have pulled my weapon on the man holding the other weapon, with that said, I would and will help someone in need...

    If I witness someone being wrongfully abused, out numbered by numerous thugs, children being beaten and so on, sorry, but I feel it is not right to just sit by and watch someone being abused, beaten and so forth....

    Maybe im wrong, im not sure. But I do know one thing, as an [B]AMERICAN,[B]I find it my duty and responsibility to helo out another american in desperate need of help....

    With all that said, I do think that there is other ways to help out without drawing doen on somebody
    Good luck with that.

    I hope you never need to put your beliefs to the test. I myself have seen enough that, "once bitten twice shy" rings very true.

    Just because someone is not willing to place their health and fortune at risk doesn't mean they are doing nothing. I will intervene, at my discretion and in the manner I choose to do so, when and where I so choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gottabkiddin View Post
    A couple of morons in serious need of some training of, when to and when not to intervene.. I hope they don't get off easy, but learn a good lesson from their experience, and can never carry a gun in public again.
    See the bold portions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellyII View Post
    But I do know one thing, as an AMERICAN, I find it my duty and responsibility to helo out another american in desperate need of help....
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blitzpackage View Post
    It is not our duty as CCW permit holders to draw weapons and detain people. If someone elects to do so, they should be prepared to live with the repercussions. The name of this forum is a better guide: Defensive Carry!
    +1 He read the same regulations as everyone with a CCW permit so he must be held to consquences of his action. I dont want to see him go to jail b/c of it but saying you were an office wasnt the brightest move and he going to have to deal with that

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