This is a discussion on Bank calls my place of employment for asking a gun question within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Oldskoolfan I hate to tell you, but I don't believe the law was broken. It is not illegal to do so but ...
You also have the legal right to sue anybody for anything you want, whether you have good reason or not. That's the way the legal system works in the US, and why we have so many attorney's running around.
It seems to me that you may have good cause to sue, and at a minimum it's probably worth talking to an attorney to see what your options are.
I am at odds with most of the replies here. I do not believe that you have any legal recourse because you have not suffered any harm.
The bank called the payor on the check. Why is not known but it easily could be covered by claiming that they were verifying the check. So, the contact with the company did not harm you.
The comment about you carrying a gun was unnecessary but they could have been checking to see if your carrying a weapon was in the course and scope of your employment due to your comments about carrying in the bank. A "misunderstanding" between you and the teller is what will be claimed to have happened. Again, no harm to you as you brought up the subject.
Any ramifications between you and your employer will be based on your comments at the bank about carrying a gun. This is directly attributable to you and not the bank or your employer.
So, I do not see that you have any sort of legal case at all. You might write a letter to the bank explaining what happened and that you are not pleased that the bank notified your employer regarding something that does not concern the employer. However, with your apparent lack of writing skills and punctuation, I believe that you will only dig a deeper hole for yourself and waste everyone's time. You certainly will not get any sort of compensation or admission from the bank for what happened.
Yeah it sucks but you had no reasonable expectation of privacy when you asked your question unless you put conditions on it prior to asking and they agreed to them.
I personally would talk to the branch manager and let him know how I felt about the incident and then just let it go.
That's just me.
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I made my best attempt to understand your story and this is what I got:
I hate to say it, but it sounds like you were the one who 'let the cat out of the bag', all over town.
I have no idea what right the bank may or may not have had to speak with your employer. I also have no idea what recourse you will have if you lose your job. Ask a lawyer about that. Hopefully, you have learned at least one lesson from this experience!
You could have called the bank, anonymously, to ask about open carry. You could have denied that you have a permit when your 'anti-gun' boss asked about it. You could have kept your own secret. But that's not as much fun as telling everyone about your superhero status, is it?
Unfortunately, there are not many places in which you can actually openly carry a gun or speak about it without increasing your risk of having to deal with some kind of repercussions. That's what internet forums are for. If I open carry at the grocery store, I might run into my boss or a coworker. If you 'yap' about it constantly, someone will find out. Weigh the risk ahead of time instead of complaining about it later.
If those repercussions affect your paycheck, maybe you'll learn the hard way to keep your mouth shut and your gun concealed around people who couldn't care less about your safety. You've got to watch your own back, in more than one way.
Fdisk, personally I would wait and see and also take my business elsewhere. We live pretty close and I OC a lot in Hickory. If you would not mind, I would like to know the bank and branch. PM is fine. I try to vote with my money so to speak. If you don't like my RTKABA, or OC, then you don't need my money! Good luck, sometimes forgiveness is easier to get than permission.
Even the Federal Reserve is a private, not a government institution.
There is no federal prohibition against carrying in banks - state law only - and it varies from state to state.
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I think, by the varying opinions, you owe it to yourself to check with an NRA recommended attorney or perhaps an attorney recommended by friends or family, just for peace of mind, if nothing else.
I do want to speak up for the OP however...Guys, I think it's kind of sad when you belittle someone based on their grammar, phrasing of a situation,question on guns, etc. Everyone can't be Shakespeare, Stephen King, your high school English teacher, or your college journalism professor, an AK armorer, or the best Tactical Instructor around, but for sure, if they are on the forum with us, we deserve to give each other respect, rather than ridicule. ..Sorry, had to get that off my chest...
Sometimes in life you have to stand your ground. It's a hard lesson to learn and even most adults don't get it, but in the end only I can be responsible for my life. If faced with any type of adversity, only I can overcome it. Waiting for someone else to take responsibility is a long fruitless wait.
My first visit would be to the bank & may just find another one.
Coarse the VP at my bank talks defense & carry w/ me on occasion.
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To answer your question it's not about getting paid at all. It's always about making things right and hoping to influence the bank and it's employees future actions for the good.
To all who would say it's no big deal try to put yourself in the original posters position. A bank, an institution that owes all of it's customers a very high degree of privacy, phoned the OP's employer and discussed his gun habits. It's not a whole lot different than say his doctor calling his employer and saying "oh by the way this employee of yours just tested positive for HIV." He has excellent grounds for a lawsuit and should bring one if for no other reason than to protect people like you and me from this same kind of attack from this same bank.
Lastly, finally, apologies and reprimands means nothing. I'm sure the bank would like nothing better than to sweep this way back under the rug. That won't help anybody but the bank.
"You have to answer for Santino, Carlo. You fingered Sonny for the Barzini people."
Or the guy should be required to work at the bank for causing inconvenience, right?A court awarded settlement is a way of trying to right the wrong that has been done. It's not perfect but it would be impractical for the court to have the bank manager mow the guy's lawn for three years.
And what makes you think the bank's actions weren't for the good? Because of your opinion?To answer your question it's not about getting paid at all. It's always about making things right and hoping to influence the bank and it's employees future actions for the good.
The fact is that the OP never mentioned a lawsuit. It was some of the posters that irresponsibity suggested the OP waste his time and money to consult a lawyer.
It is hugely different. There is a LAW against the doctor divulging information.To all who would say it's no big deal try to put yourself in the original posters position. A bank, an institution that owes all of it's customers a very high degree of privacy, phoned the OP's employer and discussed his gun habits. It's not a whole lot different than say his doctor calling his employer and saying "oh by the way this employee of yours just tested positive for HIV."
What attack? I assume you would be willing to pay the costs for the frivolous lawsuit you are suggesting. You know, to protect you.He has excellent grounds for a lawsuit and should bring one if for no other reason than to protect people like you and me from this same kind of attack from this same bank.
"By common law in North Carolina, it is unlawful for a person to
1- arm himself/herself with any unusual and dangerous weapon,
2- for the purpose of terrifying others, and
3- go about on public highways
4- in a manner to cause terror to others.
The N.C. Supreme Court states that any gun is an unusual and dangerous weapon for purposes of this offense."
More likely they will try to get you for trespassing if they try anything. GATTTOTP is not even on my radar for worries while OC'ing.
Thanks for the info Fdisk.
Last edited by chiefjason; August 15th, 2009 at 11:24 PM. Reason: added stuff