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    Quote Originally Posted by First Sgt View Post
    I think, by the varying opinions, you owe it to yourself to check with an NRA recommended attorney or perhaps an attorney recommended by friends or family, just for peace of mind, if nothing else.

    I do want to speak up for the OP however...Guys, I think it's kind of sad when you belittle someone based on their grammar, phrasing of a situation,question on guns, etc. Everyone can't be Shakespeare, Stephen King, your high school English teacher, or your college journalism professor, an AK armorer, or the best Tactical Instructor around, but for sure, if they are on the forum with us, we deserve to give each other respect, rather than ridicule. ..Sorry, had to get that off my chest...
    Very well said, My thoughts exactly !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by First Sgt View Post
    I do want to speak up for the OP however...Guys, I think it's kind of sad when you belittle someone based on their grammar, phrasing of a situation,question on guns, etc. Everyone can't be Shakespeare, Stephen King, your high school English teacher, or your college journalism professor, an AK armorer, or the best Tactical Instructor around, but for sure, if they are on the forum with us, we deserve to give each other respect, rather than ridicule. ..Sorry, had to get that off my chest...


    Excellent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldskoolfan View Post
    I hate to tell you, but I don't believe the law was broken. What legal recourse do you have for them mentioning that you asked about carrying a pistol? They did not disclose your finances to your boss, the business between you two is not protected like it is between doctors and patients or lawyers and clients.

    It was a legal thing they did as you came into a public place they owned and asked a question. As far as them using your check to get your employers name, then it is a simple matter of a Google search for their offices. Or perhaps you wore a uniform from work, a bank employee saw you at work, or found your place of work somehow. If I knew your name and saw your check I could easily call and report you to your boss. It is not illegal to do so but it is an A-hole thing to do. I am sorry but you have no legal case.
    I tend to agree with this analysis 100%

    Quote Originally Posted by First Sgt View Post
    ...I do want to speak up for the OP however...Guys, I think it's kind of sad when you belittle someone based on their grammar, phrasing of a situation,question on guns, etc. Everyone can't be Shakespeare, Stephen King, your high school English teacher, or your college journalism professor, an AK armorer, or the best Tactical Instructor around, but for sure, if they are on the forum with us, we deserve to give each other respect, rather than ridicule. ..Sorry, had to get that off my chest...
    My hats off to you First Sgt! I appreciate your taking the time to address this issue!


    Quote Originally Posted by stanislaskasava View Post
    I hate to say it, but it sounds like you were the one who 'let the cat out of the bag', all over town

    ...You could have called the bank, anonymously, to ask about open carry. You could have denied that you have a permit when your 'anti-gun' boss asked about it. You could have kept your own secret. But that's not as much fun as telling everyone about your superhero status, is it?

    Unfortunately, there are not many places in which you can actually openly carry a gun or speak about it without increasing your risk of having to deal with some kind of repercussions. That's what internet forums are for. If I open carry at the grocery store, I might run into my boss or a coworker. If you 'yap' about it constantly, someone will find out. Weigh the risk ahead of time instead of complaining about it later.

    If those repercussions affect your paycheck, maybe you'll learn the hard way to keep your mouth shut and your gun concealed around people who couldn't care less about your safety. You've got to watch your own back, in more than one way.
    There are some true words spoken in this post!

    Do Not Assume that topics of conversation or the asking of certain questions, which may seem innocuous to people who hold the same feelings regarding firearms as we do, will be received in the same light from people we do not know.

    There are an awful lot of people out there who do not have favorable opinions of people who carry guns, and they do not wear a sign on their forehead.

    I am of the opinion that the less people who know I carry a gun, the better. Not everyone holds that feeling, but you have less chance of things coming back and biting you in the butt if the "common folk" ( ) have no idea you carry.

    I think there are a couple good lessons to be learned from the Original Posters incident, so I certainly appreciate him posting his story! Thanks!
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    I thought asking about open carry would better than going in with a gun on my side where every one can see (cat will be outa bag) i was just a question.

    I never said anything about sueing for money

    My grammer is not the best but im 38 was a Firefighter for 12 years ran a furniture business and now im working as care giver and its never gave me a problem, till i get online

    I havent forced anyone to read my post and as far as some of the comments a few of you made please dont attemp to read any more of my post your comments didnt hep.

    And to those that called out the grammer police THANK YOU
    im not perfect no one is but i dont see the need to be belittled over my grammer.
    Ive always tried to help anyone i can and dont belittle them for what they are not good at.

    Btw a police dept is 2 buildings away so can you imagine what kind of hassel and bs it would have been if i had just walked in with a gun on my side if all this come from just asking what there policy was on open carry ?

    Guy with gun in bank ??

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    The bank has no business calling anybody about such a question - unless they thought it indicated danger - then they would logically call the police. Obviously they didn't; they were gossiping meddlers and wrong in calling your employer which serves absolutely no interest.

    But, the advice to get a lawyer on hand if your employer should try something due to this is a very good one. They may or may not. I don't know them. (They SHOULD not, but what organizations shouldn't do would fill the Grand Canyon.)

    The attorney can do what you both want with the bank. At least they should get a letter about privacy concerns and perhaps a complaint to regulatory agencies. But that's desert right now. The main course is you securing your employment should something happen. Start that now. Yes, it costs a consult fee at the least. But the money is well spent to prevent possible future greater losses. And pay a little more for a very good attorney. Too many people I know with specialized problems went to "their brother-in-law, ("he gave me a break on the fee"). That's not the point. I'd suggest a specialist in employment law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fdisk View Post
    I went to pick up my check today and my place of employment
    ask me if i was carring a gun and if i had a permet now the place i work at is a health care facility and are antigun i told them now i wasnt carring but yes i do have a permet and thy proceded to tell me the bank had called them to say one of there employ's had ask what there policy was on open carry in the bank witch was me.
    they told i listen no problem.
    Now i provide care for my wife who is disabled and being disabled she gets a disablity check well i guess you could it that but anyway
    she is automactily on medicade and they pay this company to pay me
    and as i said they are anti gun.
    so what right did the bank have to do this ?
    and if i lose my job do i have any recourse ?.


    This might be way off base, and I apologize in advance …
    But if you asked the question, the way you wrote this post, you might have scared the bank employee. And they might have called your employer with a “Please tell me this guy doesn’t have a gun” concern.

    Still should not have called your employer. But maybe you need to consider how you discuss guns and who you talk to about guns.

    I doubt you have any solid case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedrgr21 View Post
    Why ask? If they aren't posted and it's not against the law, you're GTG. A bank employee's opinion doesn't mean squat one way or the other. If you want to ask someone's opinion call the AG. As they say - always carry, never tell (or ask).
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    CC in a bank in NC is illegal. The statute only calls out CC however, so there is no law technically making OC in a bank illegal. That is probably where the question stems from. I just use the drive through whenever possible.

    On a side note, I went into my bank the other day with a holster on. I was OC'ing and left my handgun in the car with my wife. The manager noticed the holster. When I left he came outside and asked if I had "dropped a dollar"? I just cashed a check for several hundred of them but no ones. Probably just checking me out after seeing the holster, but he never mentioned it.

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    When applying for my texas CHL I had three documents that needed to be notarized. I brought all three to my local bank and they notarized them without batting an eyelash. Yes it is obvious what these documents are for and they wrote something like concealed carry application in their Notary book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefjason View Post
    When I left he came outside and asked if I had "dropped a dollar"? I just cashed a check for several hundred of them but no ones. Probably just checking me out after seeing the holster, but he never mentioned it.
    I'm not sure how I would've taken that. Kinda sounds like that's what he was doing. That or maybe wanting to the see the vehicle and any occupants incase he thought you were casing the place. Oh' well, one of those, "can ya blame him" kinda things. In GA it's legal to carry in the banks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    L-A-W-Y-E-R...
    I am a lawyer. I have read the question several times, and I still am uncertain about the facts given or what the specific question is. I am not in the least trying to be critical or judgmental, but perhaps if he could put in some punctuation and/or give us some more facts, we could give a better answer.

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    Asking a gun question at a bank is like asking a bomb question at the airport. Not sure why you would want to do that.

    I would seek legal counsel if you employer takes action against you though. Bank was out of line to call your employer.

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    To the op IANAL and don't know if there will be any repercussions with your employer or not but this maybe as far as it goes. IMHO the bank was wrong in contacting your employer. If they were worried they should have discussed this with the police not your employer.

    From the original post it appears your employer did not say the bank told them your name.
    proceded to tell me the bank had called them to say one of there employ's had ask what there policy was on open carry in the bank
    I would say the caller stated your name in the call, otherwise the employer would not have come directly to you.

    I don't think you would have a case to prove damages as your employer did not let you go at the time.

    I would not discuss this with the bank manager, but would send a strongly worded letter to the bank manager with a copy to the CEO and President of the bank from myself or possibly my attorney.
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    I would just open carry within the law and keep an eye out for signs at the door, it seems that you want attention to the fact that you carry, i am not trying to be a jerk but you brought this on yourself, even though the bank went an extra step out of line. and the grammar stuff, mine is horrible, probably at second grade level, but technology is great, i use spell check on my browser and nobody has to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edr9x23super View Post
    I would also find another bank, BTW....
    I've seen a few people say this, but:

    Its not my bank
    The bank is my employers bank and the check i cashed had the company name but of course the had all there acount info.
    There are a lot of comments about how the bank violated HIS privacy and HIS customer rights. That is not the case. THE BANK CONTACTED THEIR BUSINESS CUSTOMER ABOUT THE ACTIONS OF ONE OF THAT CUSTOMER'S EMPLOYEES WHILE ON THEIR PREMISES.

    IANAL, but I don't see any recourse at all, even if he is terminated directly as a result.

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