Concealed carry....kind of a long story

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    Also in NC as with some/all? other states concealed permits
    are public record. So its not like the info is hard to find
    especially if a LEO got all your info from cross checking
    tags/registration

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Bowen View Post
    Also in NC as with some/all? other states concealed permits
    are public record. So its not like the info is hard to find
    especially if a LEO got all your info from cross checking
    tags/registration
    CHILL DUDE, you were called and you are bluffing just stop.
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    I thought you were done?
    anyways what exactly do you
    think I am "bluffing" on. All the
    stories I have posted are true
    yes I have made a few mistakes
    in the details but always try to correct
    the mistakes.

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    BBqchill read the thread "on the border" that
    is posted on this site maybe it will enlighten you.
    Border Patrol does ask people about weapons and
    they can in fact see if someone has a permit through DL.
    With the local police running my tags and cross checking
    info and finding out that I have a permit before they approach
    a vehicle is just plain common sense. The officer is the one who
    told me before I had given him any info that he saw I had a permit
    through the tags. As I stated earlier he may have searched my name
    or registration info but he still was able to begin his search by running
    the tags and maybe he just said tags since that was his first search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Bowen View Post
    Also in NC as with some/all? other states concealed permits
    are public record. So its not like the info is hard to find
    especially if a LEO got all your info from cross checking
    tags/registration
    The permit list is NOT a public record in Connecticut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Bowen View Post
    I thought you were done?
    anyways what exactly do you
    think I am "bluffing" on. All the
    stories I have posted are true
    yes I have made a few mistakes
    in the details but always try to correct
    the mistakes.
    Quote Originally Posted by J Bowen View Post
    BBqchill read the thread "on the border" that
    is posted on this site maybe it will enlighten you.
    Border Patrol does ask people about weapons and
    they can in fact see if someone has a permit through DL.
    With the local police running my tags and cross checking
    info and finding out that I have a permit before they approach
    a vehicle is just plain common sense. The officer is the one who
    told me before I had given him any info that he saw I had a permit
    through the tags. As I stated earlier he may have searched my name
    or registration info but he still was able to begin his search by running
    the tags and maybe he just said tags since that was his first search.
    You are a stupid liar.

    Bumper thanks for this site, Mods, and honorable members I am sorry for this post, I'll miss this site and the thoughtful conversations I have had with the members. That said, I have had far to many border crossings to tolerate another word from this infantile liar.
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    I dont know about all the other states if it is public
    record or not but I know in VA some news papers
    in smaller towns would even print who got a permit.
    That was when I lived near Chatham VA in their paper.
    Almost certain it is in NC too

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    In NC your permit number is your drivers license number with 'NC' tacked on the end. I don't think there is any way officers would know your status from the license plate.
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    How about when you're asked to step out of the vehicle, you hit the lock button and when the door shuts behind you...it's locked (keys already removed). If asked why the door is locked...it's for my safety and yours, Officer...I'm just sayin'...
    Without a reason to search, the LEO is not supposed to have access to your car, but then you might also get the ticket. It depends on how you play it and your attitude.
    I'm just throwing that out there to see how anyone else would respond.
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    I've only used it once; but, I state: "I'm required to inform you that I have a license to carry a concealed handgun, and I have one on." In Michigan they know when they run your tags or D.l., and your required to immediately inform. The license part first is important I believe. In my case, the Officer simply responded, "yea, okay." In a lot of states, all records, Driver's License, Registration and Tags, and C.C.W. are linked on the State L.E.I.N., and most P.O. run your tag before exiting their vehicle.
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    CCHP here in NC is connected to your DL, I believe. Isn't it the same # as your DL# anyway?

    Haven't been pulled over yet, but told by friends in local LE that you hand over your CCHP ON TOP OF YOUR LICENSE so there's no mistaking it. And usually when pulled over, the officer will say something like "do you know why I pulled you over?" or sometimes even "Hi, I'm officer So-and-So, do you know how fast you were going?" and that is the perfect time to say:

    "Officer, by law I need to inform you that I am a concealed carry handgun permit holder and I am currently in possession of a firearm. How would you like me to proceed?" And you say it slowly and clearly and CALMLY. Dome light should be on, no sudden movements, and hands on top of the wheel. All the time, every time.

    Because you want EVERYONE to be as calm as possible. Nervous LEOs would make me nervous. Being the cause of their nervousness? That would terrify me. I find if you're calm and polite and above all you listen and show respect, things go very smoothly.

    Puncho, why fingers up? I never heard that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunny View Post
    CCHP here in NC is connected to your DL, I believe. Isn't it the same # as your DL# anyway?

    Haven't been pulled over yet, but told by friends in local LE that you hand over your CCHP ON TOP OF YOUR LICENSE so there's no mistaking it. And usually when pulled over, the officer will say something like "do you know why I pulled you over?" or sometimes even "Hi, I'm officer So-and-So, do you know how fast you were going?" and that is the perfect time to say:

    "Officer, by law I need to inform you that I am a concealed carry handgun permit holder and I am currently in possession of a firearm. How would you like me to proceed?" And you say it slowly and clearly and CALMLY. Dome light should be on, no sudden movements, and hands on top of the wheel. All the time, every time.

    Because you want EVERYONE to be as calm as possible. Nervous LEOs would make me nervous. Being the cause of their nervousness? That would terrify me. I find if you're calm and polite and above all you listen and show respect, things go very smoothly.

    Puncho, why fingers up? I never heard that?
    Bunny, my guess the fingers up is like the open palm, just so the LEO can see you have nothing in your hand
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    LEOs from other states as well as in Canada
    including border patrol officers can find out info on carry
    permit status and other personal info by submitting
    a person's name, ssn, or DL number by using the NLET system

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    http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules...ticle&sid=4921

    This article is a very interesting read on this topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugergirl View Post
    Bunny, my guess the fingers up is like the open palm, just so the LEO can see you have nothing in your hand
    Oh! That makes sense. (Duh, Bunny.)
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