Disclosure to TSA or customs

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    Disclosure to TSA or customs

    Hi All,

    I've gotta go to Canada this week, not taking my gun. Do I need to disclose my permit status to TSA or Customs.

    I searched the forum but didn't find anything about this one.

    Thanks,
    Tom

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    No. You aren't carrying concealed and that's all it is good for. As far as Canada, the less said the better. They don't like handguns.

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    No dont have to disclose status of permit but
    they will probably ask some firearm related questions.
    The border guard asked me the following
    1: Do you own any firearms
    2: For what reason do you own firearms
    3:Do you have a concealed permit
    4: Why did you not bring a gun since you have a permit
    Border guard also asked everyone in the car for passport and
    ID. Asked everyone if they had any weapons of ANY kind in the
    car including guns, knives, or pepper spray.
    some think the border guard cant see that someone has a permit
    but I am pretty sure they are able to since the guard didnt ask anyone
    else in the car I was in except for me about having a permit.

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    Oh by the way if you want to take a gun on the
    trip you can but will have to leave it at the border
    station and fill out some paperwork then of course just
    pick it up on the way back. Think they may charge a fee for this
    service if you wanna call it a service.

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    oh sorry guess you are going by air?

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    Why would it even be an issue? If you are not transporting then there is nothing to say.

    It's like declaring you have a dog back home and to prove it you show TSA a picture of Fido. Why would anyone consider doing it? It doesn't make any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siafu View Post
    Why would it even be an issue? If you are not transporting then there is nothing to say.

    It's like declaring you have a dog back home and to prove it you show TSA a picture of Fido. Why would anyone consider doing it? It doesn't make any sense.
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    No gun. No ammo. No explosives. No banned items. No need to declare anything.

    Be sure to bring your passport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Bowen View Post
    No dont have to disclose status of permit but
    they will probably ask some firearm related questions.
    The border guard asked me the following
    1: Do you own any firearms
    2: For what reason do you own firearms
    3:Do you have a concealed permit
    4: Why did you not bring a gun since you have a permit
    Border guard also asked everyone in the car for passport and
    ID. Asked everyone if they had any weapons of ANY kind in the
    car including guns, knives, or pepper spray.
    some think the border guard cant see that someone has a permit
    but I am pretty sure they are able to since the guard didnt ask anyone
    else in the car I was in except for me about having a permit.




    maybe it depends on the state if they enter it to come up with your driver info.

    police in GA cant even find out who has a permit unless you show your GFL or they call the probate judge during normal business hours
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    Nope, no need to tell them.

    I've not crossed the border since I've had my CHL, but usually I enter (and exit) Canada 3-5 times per month. I'll make sure that I report on whether or not they ask me anything.

    A lot of people are absolutely amazed at how much information those guys can pull up on you at the border. More than one might imagine. Many don't like to think that Customs/Border Control can see your permit info, but if it's anywhere remotely attached to your driving record (depends on the state), they can see it.

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    Most Leos even Border Patrol can use the NLET system
    to cross check info even to see someones permit status.
    Also pretty sure they can see if someone has a concealed
    permit when they scan the passport.
    good link on the subject
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules...ticle&sid=4921

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Bowen View Post
    Oh by the way if you want to take a gun on the
    trip you can but will have to leave it at the border
    station and fill out some paperwork then of course just
    pick it up on the way back. Think they may charge a fee for this
    service if you wanna call it a service.
    I am looking at a short trip into Canada while on vacation with my family. Is this something that is easily done? Have you used this service before? How do I find some information on this? Thanks for the help?

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    I have not used the service before but the border guard
    knew I had a permit. He asked why I didnt bring my gun
    since I had a permit. I responded because I was just on family
    vacation and didnt see a need to bring it. Then he said well you
    know you can check firearms in and keep them here dont you.
    BSF5044 - Importing a Firearm or Weapon Into Canada
    link may help answer any questions you have.
    Of course if someone tries to get into Canada and doesnt declare firearms
    and the officer finds firearms they will be taken away without return and possible criminal charges. Some guns you can fill out some paperwork and bring
    into Canada but only under special conditions

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Bowen View Post
    I have not used the service before but the border guard
    knew I had a permit. He asked why I didnt bring my gun
    since I had a permit. I responded because I was just on family
    vacation and didnt see a need to bring it. Then he said well you
    know you can check firearms in and keep them here dont you.
    BSF5044 - Importing a Firearm or Weapon Into Canada
    link may help answer any questions you have.
    Of course if someone tries to get into Canada and doesnt declare firearms
    and the officer finds firearms they will be taken away without return and possible criminal charges. Some guns you can fill out some paperwork and bring
    into Canada but only under special conditions
    Since I have never visited Canada before, is the border guard that you are refering to U.S. or Canadian?

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    The one that asked us all those questions
    was on the way into Canada.
    On the way back into U.S. the guard just asked
    what we did in Canada and did we buy anything
    at the duty free shop

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