NY judge issues Non-Resident permit?

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    NY judge issues Non-Resident permit?

    I think I saw a post not too long ago, I believe here, that somewhere upstate, a judge issued a non-resident permit to a former resident that was moving out of state...please help, I really want to find out more about this....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hudsonvalley View Post
    I think I saw a post not too long ago, I believe here, that somewhere upstate, a judge issued a non-resident permit to a former resident that was moving out of state...please help, I really want to find out more about this....
    If they did it would be in violation of NY pistol permit laws. NY does not issue pistol permits to non residents. In fact typically you have to reside in NY for 3 years before you can even apply but that number varies from county to county.

    I know I live in one of the most pistol friendly counties in NY state and no judge here would issue a non resident permit. So I'm not sure where you read this.

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    Several people have gotten unrestricked pemits but never non-resident.

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    I live in CT I would like to be able if at all possible. Not a chance.

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    Handgunlaw.us

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/newyork.pdf

    Page 3....There is a forum where someone posted that a NYS resident that had an Unrestricted, moved out of state and a judge renewed his NYS with an out of state address..I just can't remember which forum..wouldn't that be something for the NRA to get a hold of...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HITCH KING View Post
    Several people have gotten unrestricked pemits but never non-resident.
    Many more than several...I know at least a couple of dozen myself...
    In some upstate counties, Unrestricted out of the box.....Nassau and Suffolk are almost as bad as NYC...I'm glad I moved up here...
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    The owner of the gunshop down the road from my parents house told me he was working with someone who lived in PA but worked in NY and was able to get a NY permit.

    The problem was that in order to add the gun to his NY permit it had to be transferred through a NY FFL holder.... but its against Federal law to transfer a handgun to a non-resident. I haven't seen the owner since to ask how that ended up. He said he didn't think they issued to non-residents either, but then this instance occurred.

    When I lived there no one seemed to know the laws especially the police.... Crazy state.... but it'll always be my home state. Hopefully the laws will get better for those of you still residing there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sand86 View Post
    The owner of the gunshop down the road from my parents house told me he was working with someone who lived in PA but worked in NY and was able to get a NY permit.

    The problem was that in order to add the gun to his NY permit it had to be transferred through a NY FFL holder.... but its against Federal law to transfer a handgun to a non-resident. I haven't seen the owner since to ask how that ended up. He said he didn't think they issued to non-residents either, but then this instance occurred.

    When I lived there no one seemed to know the laws especially the police.... Crazy state.... but it'll always be my home state. Hopefully the laws will get better for those of you still residing there.
    I believe you're correct. If you work in NY you're eligible for a permit. I would also assume if you own property you could also be eligible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by press1280 View Post
    I believe you're correct. If you work in NY you're eligible for a permit. I would also assume if you own property you could also be eligible.

    NO! You are 100% incorrect.

    Getting a Pistol License in NY State by Orange County NY Shooters

    NY Penal Law

    Thank God I no longer live in NY.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sand86 View Post
    The owner of the gunshop down the road from my parents house told me he was working with someone who lived in PA but worked in NY and was able to get a NY permit.
    This strikes me as an urban legend. Nessie, Bigfoot, and the non resident unrestricted NY pistol permit holder... :)

    Now if he were in a job, such as a Brink's driver who is required to carry a pistol as part of his job, I'd believe it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sand86 View Post
    The problem was that in order to add the gun to his NY permit it had to be transferred through a NY FFL holder.... but its against Federal law to transfer a handgun to a non-resident. I haven't seen the owner since to ask how that ended up. He said he didn't think they issued to non-residents either, but then this instance occurred.
    I'd really like to hear more about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sand86 View Post
    When I lived there no one seemed to know the laws especially the police.... Crazy state.... but it'll always be my home state. Hopefully the laws will get better for those of you still residing there.
    It's been getting better for my county, but I don't see things getting any better until New York City breaks off and becomes their own state. ;)
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    400.00 Subsection 7.

    7. License: form. Any license issued pursuant to this section shall,
    except in the city of New York, be approved as to form by the
    superintendent of state police. A license to carry or possess a pistol
    or revolver shall have attached the licensee`s photograph, and a coupon
    which shall be removed and retained by any person disposing of a firearm
    to the licensee. Such license shall specify the weapon covered by
    calibre, make, model, manufacturer`s name and serial number, or if none,
    by any other distinguishing number or identification mark, and shall
    indicate whether issued to carry on the person or possess on the
    premises, and if on the premises shall also specify the place where the
    licensee shall possess the same. If such license is issued to an alien,
    or to a person not a citizen of and usually a resident in the state,
    the
    licensing officer shall state in the license the particular reason for
    the issuance and the names of the persons certifying to the good
    character of the applicant.....

    Well...any lawyers out there....looks like non-resident to me...
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    NYS non resident pistol permit

    I know Canadian IPSIC shooters participate in matches in Western New York Combat Pistol League. I assume they must have a permit . Anyone know for sure ?

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    I does sound like an urban legend, but I trust the guy. He is a long time family friend who went to high school and college with my father.

    If I have time next time I'm up there ill stop by and find out more.

    A lot of people in upstate/western NY have been hoping for that split for a long time. It just makes sense. The needs of the two areas are polar opposites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKsrule View Post
    NO! You are 100% incorrect.

    Getting a Pistol License in NY State by Orange County NY Shooters

    NY Penal Law

    Thank God I no longer live in NY.


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    Quote Originally Posted by viceroy View Post
    I know Canadian IPSIC shooters participate in matches in Western New York Combat Pistol League. I assume they must have a permit . Anyone know for sure ?
    "Non-resident target shooters may enter or pass through New York State with handguns for the purposes of any NRA approved competition if the competitor has in his possession a copy of the match program, proof of entry and a pistol license from his state of residence. The handgun must be unloaded and transported in a locked opaque container."http://www.nysrpa.org/nygunlaws.htm

    Presumably, the Canadian Restricted Possession and Acquisition Licence would suffice.
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