So why did he pull you over?
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While driving home I pass Detroit police patrol car that has just stopped a Juvenile on a bicycle I no sooner round the next corner and I am pulled over just a few houses from my house.
The car I am driving is not in my name so LEO doesn’t know that I am carrying from the plate.
I stop ASAP roll down the window and put both hands outside, the officer approaches the vehicle and I tell him as the law requires that I am carrying with a permit. He is talking at the same time, pauses for a moment and says, the reason that I stopped you is because there was a report of gun shots in the area.
I restate that I am armed and have a permit. He says you have a gun do you have a permit for it? I am looking at his body armor that states he is in the gang squad and I say, yes I do and I live just a few houses down the street.
Never asked for ID of any type, and says, you got a gun and permit well have a nice night sorry for bothering you.
At which point I thank him for his service and wish him well.
As I park the car in front of the house it occurs to me that the police were looking for someone with a gun, they stop me, know absolutely nothing about me except what I tell him and bid me a good night!
My how things have changed. I like it.
So why did he pull you over?
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He said that there was a report of gun shots in the neighborhood. There were several other patrol cars in the area, it seemed obvious they were looking for someone.
You didn't fit the description of the guy they were looking for or weren't wearing the clothes they were looking for , so he didn't need to talk to you any further.
Odd that if they were looking for someone with a gun that you got off just because you said you had a permit...I would have preferred if he had asked for your permit and then let you go, but at least it was a positive encounter.
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Actually "odd" in this situation would have been if they confiscated your pistol for testing and a background check that could take weeks just to see if your pistol had been fired recently. Glad it all worked out well for you.
That's actually an excellent stop...for Detroit.
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im guessing sense he was legal than they new he wasn't the suspect remember Detroit here
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When I lived in the Detroit area I had a similar thing happen. These situations are pretty dynamic and decisions are made very fast, as it was with me. They kicked me on my way and took off, having bigger fish to fry.
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I'd be willing to bet that you putting your hands out the window where he can see them helped a little bit too. I'm pretty sure someone who illegally discharged a weapon in the city is not going to put their hands out the window, but instead, try to stash the gun under the seat or somewhere else in the car.
You also informed him immediately before he could tell you what happened.
Most LEO are pretty good at reading peoples reaction to that first contact, your demeanor spoke volumes.
I open carried all last summer and twice I had LEO approach, make small talk then walk away without asking for ID or anything. Just like a shark or BG will “bump” a potential victim to gauge the response and decide whether to continue the attack. LEO will also “bump” someone and gauge the response to decide whether to investigate further, failure to make eye contact, stammering with hesitant answers and restlessness will almost guarantee further investigation.
It was probably more your vehicle that was responsible for the stop. It either matched the make or color of the one they were looking for. The fact that you were up front and open impressed the officer, so based on his instinct, he let you go.
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Sounds like a good encounter to me.
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Sounds like you didn't fit the bill on this one. Sounds like you did everything right!
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