October 6th, 2009 01:59 AM
If the incident happened the same way, but instead of leaving just stood there and placed his hands on you to turn you around probably saying "I'm not done with you yet" or something to that effect.
Originally Posted by Pro2A
I think if he is close enough to turn me around he's getting a knee/shin to the groin as hard as possible while yelling "leave me alone", "call the police", something to that effect.
Figure at that distance using OC and you might eat some as well, still a bit too soon for a blade, your standing in line so pulling your pistol isn't the best choice either and lets face it a hard shot to the groin will put more guys on their knees faster than a right hook. Just that one swift kick and start backing away still facing him of course.
Just my $.02
October 6th, 2009 08:49 AM
No disparity of force? The guy was twice his size. I have been taught that if you are in fear of death or serious bodily injury you have the right to use any force necessary including deadly force. If someone twice my size physically attacked me I think it would be easy to make a case for disparity of force.
Originally Posted by atctimmy
I would not shoot someone to avoid an argument or maybe a shoving match but if someone much larger than me attacked with the obvious intent of inflicting serious damage I would not hesitate.
October 6th, 2009 11:20 AM
Here's my dilemma: I'm sixty. Stayed in fairly decent shape most of my life. But in the last five years it has become woefully apparent that I ain't 30 or 40 or even 50. Even five years ago I ran five miles easily 3x a week. Not no more! Secondly, if the guy is that big and that close, in a half second he could have me on the floor pounding the you-know-what out of me. I feel I have three options: 1. Jesus 2. A verbal warning while backing up & hand on hip. 3. The exit. No time for anything else. Yes, I know how to fight but I also have been on the other end of a one punch fight. Pretty hard to implement plan B when you literally see stars.
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October 6th, 2009 11:38 AM
AzNav, I'm in the same boat. I used to run half marathons and 10K's for fun, sometimes a big handful of them a week. Sometimes, it was to help friends through them, or as an alternative to a training run (given how fun they can be with all the great people who attend).
Originally Posted by aznav
Now, though, walking to the end of the block and back can lay me up for the rest of the day, given a bad hip problem I've got. Heck, sometimes I feel that the ~5yr old kids that my neighbors have could give me a run for my money (and they sometimes do!, when we're playing). Point is, I'm not running anywhere if a felon comes knocking. The only options for me are to bend over, or to "knock" back.
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October 6th, 2009 03:11 PM
This guy went WAAAAAAAAY out of his way to confront you. I think you acted appropriately.
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October 6th, 2009 03:49 PM
Id say you handled it a hell of a lot better than I would have. I dont do well with that sort of confrontation...short fuse and all. Oversized bully types have always brought out the best in me and taking them down used to be something I enjoyed on occasion.
Originally Posted by Pro2A
Of course that all had to change when I decided to grow up and be a man.
Apparently the arse youre talking about has decided to remain an immature child who thinks he's still on the grammer school playground.
October 6th, 2009 03:52 PM
Originally Posted by gottabkiddin
That was part of growing up in my case. Learning to simply threaten to have the police get involved works much better at defusing a bad situation than saying something insulting or escalating things.
I wish Id had the brains to do that years before I did.
October 6th, 2009 04:53 PM
Mr. Hothead is probably at his court mandated anger management class telling all his fellow hothead friends how a jerk at the store almost ran him over and when he went to confront him about it he acted like he was going to pull a gun on me.
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