October 8th, 2009 11:55 AM
Never take the keys out...but I do shut the car off.........
Originally Posted by jp3276
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October 8th, 2009 01:09 PM
Looks like the encounter went well.
I would also get my license, registration, and proof of insurance ready so I don't have to reach or dig for it.
I also wouldn't offer any information, avoid any chit-chat, and wouldn't discuss where I was, where I'm going, etc.
Of course, I also wouldn't speed
October 8th, 2009 01:24 PM
GOOD JOB PLOP & Sleepyhead WELCOME TO THE FORUM ; )
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October 8th, 2009 04:23 PM
To each his own, but I consider an immediate admission to breaking the law an unsuccessful way for a civilian to start his converstation with a police officer during a traffic stop.
Originally Posted by Plop
I know some people recommend doing the hands-on-the-steering-wheel thing, but I think it makes you look like some kind of habitual offender who is very used to being stopped by the police.
I was wondering what you were doing with your hands-on-the-steering-wheel thing.
A traffic ticket is formal recognition of a lapse in situational awareness.
October 8th, 2009 07:00 PM
Originally Posted by sleepyhead
October 8th, 2009 08:16 PM
Beat me to it.
Originally Posted by PastorPack
I take exception to the LEO statement as well.
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A person who is incapable of independent thought; a person who is herd animal-like in behavior; one who cannot distinguish between right and wrong; a foolish person.
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October 8th, 2009 08:26 PM
Great experience hope they all go that well.
October 8th, 2009 08:53 PM
Originally Posted by PastorPack View Post
Great write-up, thanks!
The only part I didn't like was this line:
[sarcasm on] Actually officer, I'm a huge crack-head and the trunk has a dead body, a portable meth lab and a suitcase nuke. I just went through all the trouble of getting my CCW to mess with ya! [sarcasm off]
Shouldn't the fact of a CCW hint towards the driver being a law-abiding citizen?
now don't anyone flame me, I am a LEO, I had my CHL for 4 years before that, I'm a strong supporter of the 2A.....
Originally Posted by Sticks
The question asked by the LEO is to be looked at in the same manner as Sixto said, thats all, nothing insulting, nothing insinuating.
As for the CHL/CCW being a hint that the driver is a law-abiding citizen....yes....it does. I've always had that mindset too. When I got my CHL I always thought that a LEO would think of me differently than a non-CHL if ever encountered, and most of my encounters this was the story.
I can't go into details, but this week I had to arrest a CHL for aggravated assault w/deadly weapon. It was not even close to a self-defense situation. NRA Life member. I had to fight real hard to keep from saying what I wanted to say but I had a job to do. For me it was a shock and a bad experience with him being a CHL.
Like Sixto said, we ask questions for different reasons that most people don't understand or take the wrong way.
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October 8th, 2009 10:16 PM
In SC we are told in our CWP class to put your hands on the steering wheel if you are pulled over so I really think this only lets the LEO know that I have been trained properly and want to make this stop as easy as possible.
Originally Posted by Bm7b5
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October 9th, 2009 05:42 AM
Good stop, though I am not a fan of Voluntary Information.
64zebra, good point. I don't suppose it's fair to judge motives when it comes to superior experience...
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Donít mess with the guy who can barely stand up. His remaining options for self-defense don't include your survival.
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October 9th, 2009 11:13 AM
Nope, but interlocking the fingers with your hands behind or on top of your head surely will.
Originally Posted by Bm7b5
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October 9th, 2009 11:26 AM
That is great. My instructor in Gun Safety Class is a LEO and he advised me to do exactly what you did. He said it shows the officer respect and definitely brings the stress level down for them. AND he said when he is treated with that kind of respect he returns it. Awesome.
October 9th, 2009 11:48 AM
Glad you had a good experiance and a warning too.
October 9th, 2009 07:20 PM
Great write up! How long did it take for your heart rate to return to normal??
64zebra, your perspective is greatly appreciated!!
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