October 8th, 2009 11:09 PM
Delta out of Melbourne to Atl-Hartsfield.
Me: I have a firearm to declare.
Agent: Here, fill this out and sign. Place inside the case and lock.
Wait here until they screen it.
Took perhaps an extra 5 minutes while I waited on them to give me the okay after screening.
Should be the same out of Atl-Hartsfield tomorrow.
He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliott
The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.
October 8th, 2009 11:14 PM
I think you ripped off my post . . . because that is almost exactly what I typed.
Originally Posted by miklcolt45
Or it could just be that there are standard procedures with the TSA and every airline, and that flying with a firearm is really no big deal as long as you are educated and prepared.
Glock 26 w/ CTAC IWB
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far" - Theodore Roosevelt
October 9th, 2009 01:35 AM
Taking Your Pistole Along on a Plane Ride
Having traveled a number of times, here's how I go at it:
- Review TSA: Traveling with Special Items to understand TSA policies and procedures. Have a copy with you when you reach the airport.
- Put the unloaded weapon(s) in a lockable hard-sided case with locks only you have the keys/combination to open. TSA locks are not allowed.
- Steps that will make it easier to show that the weapon is unloaded - especially when x-rayed.
- If the weapon is a:
- lock the slide open
- put a cable tie through the barrel and out the breach to show that the chamber is empty
- revolver, flip the cylinder out
- Do not put the magazines in this locked case with the gun(s):
- it invites questions about them being loaded
- if the gun case is "liberated" from the checked bag by a Criminal Entrepreneur, the lack of magazines frustrates the "Liberator", since the weapon is now initially a single shot one
- Check the airline(s) you are flying on:
- To determine if the ammo
- MUST be in boxes (plastic reload boxes work)
- can fly in loaded magazines
- If loaded magazines are permitted, make sure the pouches fully cover the magazines
- The round(s) from the chamber(s)/cylinder(s) must be in a box, not loose
- Secure and protect magazines (separately from the weapon) and ammunition boxes from possible damage.
- Put the lockable hard-sided case with the weapon and the ammo/magazines into a cheap, non-descript bag - with clear labeling outside and inside - for checking in.
- If possible, develop a way to attach - in a lockable way - the hard-sided case to the piece of luggage it has been placed into.
- The labeling should be limited to:
- Your Name
- Your Cell Phone - if you have one, or your home phone if you do not
- Your personal email address - if you have one
- NO ADDRESSES, JOB TITLES, ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD BE INDICATED
- Other stuff - like shampoo, mouthwash, toothpaste, etc, could be in this checked bag also.
- Have the rules for the airline in hand when you check this non-descript bag at the airport.
- Make sure you have the keys/combinations to the lockable hard-sided case with you and you alone (Per Federal Regulations 49CFR § 1540.111 Carriage of weapons, explosives, and incendiaries by individuals - Electronic Code of Federal Regulations:) at all times. You will have to open the lockable hard-side case:
- to demonstrate to the airline that the weapon(s) are not loaded at check in (a signed form/tag indicating that will go in with the weapon(s))
- if the TSA wants to see
- Have the serial number(s) and descriptions of your weapons on you, so if they "disappear" you can report the loss/theft immediately to the:
- FAA Regional Office
- ATF Regional Office
Other things to consider:
- Check Handgunlaw.us and/or Pack-N-Go Carry Concealed Trip Planner to determine:
- If you can possess the weapon at all your stops
- Where and how you can carry at all your stops
- What are the deadly force rules in each state you are visiting
- Have a copy of the Don Young Transportation Letter on hand - http://www.anjrpc.org/DefendingYourR...s%20letter.pdf. This covers changing modes of travel - car to plane to car - in a single journey.
George H. Foster
October 9th, 2009 08:42 AM
Make sure its an actual "center" or one of our hubs. The UPS Stores won't (or shouldn't/aren't allowed) to ship a handgun. The Orlando hub is off Landstreet (near Orlando International Airport), actual address of it is atlantic ave, I know for sure that that hub will ship a handgun as i have done so but it was to Ruger's repair facility. We stop service on next days around 7pm if i remember right so anytime before 6pm and you're good to go. Don't know how far you are from there though profile says orlando. There is a longwood center but i don't know where it is. Good luck :-D
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