Safety - Holstering G27 in Supertuck

Safety - Holstering G27 in Supertuck

This is a discussion on Safety - Holstering G27 in Supertuck within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Since there have been a couple recent threads on safety issues, I thought I would post photos of how I hold my Glock 27 when ...

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    Safety - Holstering G27 in Supertuck

    Since there have been a couple recent threads on safety issues, I thought I would post photos of how I hold my Glock 27 when I am inserting it into my Supertuck holster. Being that it is technically possible to snag the trigger on something like a belt loop and potentially shoot my own leg, I hold it has shown. Because my fingertips extend past the width of my G27 and wrap around, I can feel my side as I am guiding towards the holster while safely keeping my finger off the trigger. It gives me much more confidence than holding it by the grip as if I was going to fire and blindly poking at my holster.
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    My only comment is, if you can get a belt loop inside the trigger guard and snag the trigger with it, I'd love to see a video of it. That's pretty much impossible, as are most of the "catch the trigger on (insert items here)". I've yet to see a case where it was proven that anything but a finger snagged a Glock trigger and caused a discharge.

    It gives me much more confidence than holding it by the grip as if I was going to fire and blindly poking at my holster.
    You aren't supposed to do it blindly; you're supposed to watch and pay attention to what you are doing. Personally, the way you show in the photos, I think you have a greater chance of dropping the gun while trying to get the muzzle started into the holster.

    I hold my (non-glock) just like I do any other time and slide the gun into the holster - any holster - keeping my finger off the trigger. Never had a an unintentional discharge in 40 years of gun handling.

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    Your concern about an AD when "holstering" is valid.
    But IMHO, how you holster or Draw SHOULD be the same. ( ADs drawing or holstering are far too frequent, esp. among LEOs )

    MY RULE = KEEP YOUR DARN FINGER out of the Trigger guard & off the trigger until on TARGET.
    I ALWAYS have my "trigger finger" as seen below whether drawing or holstering.
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    Majorlk,

    Technically, in the sense that I used obviously means highly unlikely yet it still falls in the realm of possibility. Is it possible for a unicorn to fly out of my butt with rainbow kisses and pots of gold for everyone? NO....well not until that spell I've been working on happens anyways. But is it POSSIBLE to catch a trigger on something while holstering? Yes. One in a trillion odds still falls into the realm of POSSIBLE.

    The grip I have pictured is using all 5 fingers in a very secure grip. The barrel section of the gun is into the holster up to the trigger guard before I slide it home.

    I cannot physically see my holster placement without the aid of a mirror. I have one at home and I have one at my store, however I do not have a mirror available everywhere I go, like a bathroom stall. I take my time and I am careful. For someone with small hands this grip may not work but for me. this grip feels safer when holstering my Glock. 20 years of gun handling and no unintentional discharge and am looking forward to another 20+.

    How is doing what I am doing in any way making things harder? I would like to learn from your wisdom.

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    I just got a ST for my G27.
    I always grab it,hold it by the grip, like I'm ready to fire, finger pointed off trigger.
    I been working on my draw and re holstering, If you don't do it by the grip
    you have to re grip or adjust your grip to fire, kinda found it a bad habit to start my handling habit like that. New CHL
    I also look at the hole in the holster where the gun is gonna go and in slide it in.
    Always look in the hole.
    I wear it at 3:00-30 pointed back and down .

    great gun and great Holster. :)
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    Maybe being a bass player, as well as many other instruments, just makes me very comfortable using my hands so having one position for my morning or bathroom break holstering doesn't effect my normal draw grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puffer View Post
    Your concern about an AD when "holstering" is valid.
    But IMHO, how you holster or Draw SHOULD be the same. ( ADs drawing or holstering are far too frequent, esp. among LEOs )

    MY RULE = KEEP YOUR DARN FINGER out of the Trigger guard & off the trigger until on TARGET.
    I ALWAYS have my "trigger finger" as seen below whether drawing or holstering.
    This is what I do...finger off the trigger...it's muscle memory.
    When I reholster my Glock, I am careful of not having an untucked shirt in the way...slow and sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomortis View Post
    Majorlk,

    Technically, in the sense that I used obviously means highly unlikely yet it still falls in the realm of possibility. Is it possible for a unicorn to fly out of my butt with rainbow kisses and pots of gold for everyone? NO....well not until that spell I've been working on happens anyways. But is it POSSIBLE to catch a trigger on something while holstering? Yes. One in a trillion odds still falls into the realm of POSSIBLE.
    Please show me the number of cases of Glock UDs than have actually been proved to have been caused by catching clothing on the trigger.

    I cannot physically see my holster placement without the aid of a mirror. I have one at home and I have one at my store, however I do not have a mirror available everywhere I go, like a bathroom stall.
    Why remove it in the first place. Mine gun stays in my SuperTuck with no problem - pants up or down.

    I take my time and I am careful. For someone with small hands this grip may not work but for me. this grip feels safer when holstering my Glock. 20 years of gun handling and no unintentional discharge and am looking forward to another 20+.
    Whatever works for you.

    How is doing what I am doing in any way making things harder? I would like to learn from your wisdom.
    I just think the contortions you seem to be going through make it harder than necessary. If it works for you, then I guess I really have no right to say you're doing it wrong. My apology for doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorlk View Post
    My only comment is, if you can get a belt loop inside the trigger guard and snag the trigger with it, I'd love to see a video of it. That's pretty much impossible, as are most of the "catch the trigger on (insert items here)". I've yet to see a case where it was proven that anything but a finger snagged a Glock trigger and caused a discharge.



    You aren't supposed to do it blindly; you're supposed to watch and pay attention to what you are doing. Personally, the way you show in the photos, I think you have a greater chance of dropping the gun while trying to get the muzzle started into the holster.

    I hold my (non-glock) just like I do any other time and slide the gun into the holster - any holster - keeping my finger off the trigger. Never had a an unintentional discharge in 40 years of gun handling.

    I think people, at times, make things much harder than they need to be.


    I agree. It's really a molehill.

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    The only thing I change about my grip when I holster my XD is that I pull my thumb off the side of the gun and rest it on the back of the slide, it disengages the grip safety, and is something I picked up years ago carrying a 1911.
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    I've tried very deliberately to snag my Glock's trigger on the side of my body, on a IWB holster, and a OWB holster. I never even got close, and I wouldn't ever be so hurried and vigorous when holstering anyway. I always holster up with the reverse motion as my draw. After practicing many times, I just get used to knowing where the holster is without looking. Or if I have to do it by touch, then I can use my thumb to find the tip of the holster.

    Now, imagine that you are holding a smoking gun with your finger on the trigger and a man lying in a growing pool of blood in front of you. Your heart is racing, people are screaming, dogs are barking, and sirens are blaring. The cops are almost here, time to holster up. Are you confident that nothing will go wrong with your technique in such a situation?

    If you are, then great. Maybe that will help someone else with the same concern.

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    It gives me much more confidence than holding it by the grip as if I was going to fire and blindly poking at my holster.
    Weak side hand might hold clothing out of the way and clear a path to the holster. IMO, if you're "blindly poking" at the holster, then maybe you should start looking. Then practice with your Glock dry (empty, no magazine) and cocked trigger. Then try and see what sort of things get in the way of your re-holstering with your normal carry attire, and change whatever is necessary for you to feel confident in the means and methods you currently employ. If you feel that the possibility of shooting yourself is high with your methods or the Glock, then IMO....you'll need to change a lot more than just your methods, clothing, or gear.

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