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Corporate came to work today

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#1 ·
There were three men that came from division HQ in Northern New Jersey today. Now mind you we are in the middle of PA... you can't get much more hick then us. My boss has a hunting camo fleece on, I'm wearing my PAFOA hoodie and my hunting camo hat. Another co-worker had a pickup truck with hunting stickers all over it... you get the point. We are in the sticks, and we work in a warehouse.

A spotless black Mercedes with NJ plates pulls up between two dirty pickup trucks in the parking lot and three guys get out. All of whom I've never met. I knew they were coming and was told just to show them how I do things on the receiving end of the warehouse process. I guess they were doing a quality assurance audit to make sure we were doing things by the book.

After the pleasantries one guy sits down with me. He was all purdied up in slacks and a tie. I turn down my radio and we talk a bit. I guess he see's my PAFOA hoodie logo and asks me if I own a gun. :scruntiny:

I said yes, not trying to be a smart alec, but not obviously lying. He then said "With you"?

I said 'no' just to deflate him as I knew where he was going with this. Then he went on a rant about corporate firearms policy just to make sure I knew that guns were dangerous and were not needed in the workplace :twak: I just smiled, nodded and agreed. The whole time my 1911 was in my laptop bag just next to my desk :smile:

You could tell he was from Jersey. Have any of you had similar encounters with your company? Do you just go with the flow smile and nod or do you set them strait?

Discuss...
 
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#2 ·
You can't "set them straight" because they have a few things between them and reality.

One is that they are "your boss" because they come from "corporate" and know better than you do about your job. (Superiority complex)

Another is that they are from "the city" and do not understand the realities of life outside the city. (Ignorance)

Finally, they are from NJ and likely believe that ALL guns are evil. (Brainwashed)

Given that, why waste your time on these kooks.
 
#3 ·
Yeh, I had an administrator hanging around once to observe an exercise. I tweaked her a bit just for fun, but I kept clear of bringing any suspicion on me.

No way could I ever change any aspect of her mind. She's a die-hard anti, believing the police would be on scene "just like that" (snapping her fingers) if there was ever a situation where someone needed assistance due to a deranged gunman or bomber. I suggested perhaps our security officers should be armed, and she almost barfed.

I didn't give her any indication she was 3 feet from numerous rounds and a couple guns.

The exercise ended, she left, I haven't seen her since, I'm still employed (that's my second job), and I continue to take personal responsibility for my own security :smile: while I'm there.

I'll let her remain in her little ivory castle, thinking all is safe with the police a few minutes away. If I hear shots coming from the administration building, well, no need for me to go because the police will be there "just like that" (snap). Then when the smoke clears, I'll go home to my family at the end of my shift.

I'm good with that.
 
#18 ·
She's a die-hard anti, believing the police would be on scene "just like that" (snapping her fingers) if there was ever a situation where someone needed assistance due to a deranged gunman or bomber.
I wonder how come the cops didn't show up "just like that" to keep my godsister's boyfriend from stabbing her to death?

I'll bet she can't cite a SINGLE instance of a cop saving the life of an individual in the way she thinks.

Somebody needs to tell her that 911 is a communications system of variable efficacy, NOT a matter transporter.
 
#4 ·
Funny how people think they have a right to tell you what you need and don't need. You only need X # of rounds in your mag. You only need 1 square of toilet paper. You only need a little putt-putt car with a lawnmower engine.

I say these busybodies need to mind their own business. Corporate policy... yeah yeah :rolleyes:
 
#5 ·
Several years ago some we got a transplanted Yankee for a plant manager. He was from New Joisey and he marveled at how he could go down town and see guns in the back of pickup trucks everywhere. The fact that deer season had just started was lost on him and he displayed the usual anti-gun comments and ignorance that Yankees that come from big cities are famous for.

Out of the blue, he decided that NO weapons were allowed in the parking lot.Up to that point, it had always been allowed with the only stipulation that the vehicle be locked.

Naturally much grumbling went on, and because this plant is located in a rural area, there were alot of guns in the parking lot. Since we had to pass through a checkpoint with guards randomly checking vehicles, it seemed like a pretty cut and dried deal, but it wasn't.

One of workers, who happened to be the President of one of the largest gun-clubs in the state and also a concealed weapons instructor, walked into his office and confronted him about some of the issues concerning the CHL's.

To make a long story short....it worked. He retracted the policy and eventually ended up getting his own CHL.

So, with good communication skills and a little bit of tact, sometimes a simple discussion can go a long way...if the person up high isn't a controlling type that can do no wrong.
 
#8 ·
Gotta' watch out for them 'suits'...:yup:
What stupid games we have to play.:rolleyes:

Of course I work in a school, so weapons in the building or in the lot are a BIG no-no :nono: by state law.
 
#9 ·
Up until a year ago, I was employed in a mfg. plant ( production worker) in a liberal area of my state. A large # of the employees were ex cons with some "heavy baggage". Because I am an ex LEO & Fire arm Inst., I decided to keep a low profile.

But soon after my hiring, I was called into the "big boss' office. Here is the story.

A female employee had been violently confronted by a punk as she came to work early in the AM.( scared but not injured ) Not only was the Co. concerned but so were the employees. ( several of the men had volunteered, including a couple of the " Hard" ex cons, to provide the ladies with escorts to & from their vehicles. :image035:

So where am I ?? It seems that Corp. upon hearing of the problem, suggested that my boss confer with me ( got my job through a Corp. Mgr. who knew me )
The results =
1. I ( with some others ) recommended some "parking" changes & other changes concerning "blind spots"
2. I & some other Inst. ran a NRA RTBAV class for all office employees.( + any others, including wives etc., that wanted to attend.)

As a side note,
1. The Co. bought a gun safe for anyone who had CPPs to store their guns in while @ work so they would not be in the vehicles :yup:
2. I was allowed to post any NRA training courses my training team was offering, on the BBB.
3. The biggest surprise was the reaction by the "ex cons" = :25a: ( many of their wives & teenagers took the RTBAV course )

Note- the above is NOT to wave my "flag" but to show that there are those out there who "UNDERSTAND" the REAL WORLD.

Puffer
 
#10 ·
Our company has a policy of no weapons on property. They have the gunbuster sign, in an odd place, its about 50 yards inside the building, behind a corner by an ATM machine, meaning, any contractor or visitor has no way of knowing the policy. Everyone in my dept. knows I am a gun nut, I dont care what they know.

The company has the mindset that the police can be there in a matter of minutes, and that before they arrive, our unarmed security can deal with anything that comes up. Funny that the CEO has an armed guard with him always.
 
#32 ·
Funny that the CEO has an armed guard with him always.
yeah, imagine that, they can have the right mindset when it comes to their protection but screw the other people at the company

Deanimator said:
Grady said:
Originally Posted by grady
She's a die-hard anti, believing the police would be on scene "just like that" (snapping her fingers) if there was ever a situation where someone needed assistance due to a deranged gunman or bomber.
I wonder how come the cops didn't show up "just like that" to keep my godsister's boyfriend from stabbing her to death?
Somebody needs to tell her that 911 is a communications system of variable efficacy, NOT a matter transporter.
:yup: exactly, I've been on the other end of burglaries in progress and get there to find the perp gone, believe me I know first hand how individuals should be protecting themselves, this guy the other night broke in back door since the front was secured, we were only 3 minutes away and he was in/out, thankfully nobody inside hurt


Deanimator said:
Rock and Glock said:
Originally Posted by Rock and Glock
When that happens, ya'll just know nuthin' good is gonna happen......
In the movies, Steven Seagal usually kills a bunch of people not too much later.
YES!!!!!
LOL:rofl:
:ninjabattle:
:smily1094:
:uzi:
:badguy:
 
#13 ·
Things are a lot different where I work.
Carrying a gun on the job is mandatory.
I set my own days and hours.
I can take time to go to the range any day I like.
A day off to go fishing, no problem, anytime.
Oh yeah, I run my own business and work from home:image035:
 
#14 ·
Are you hiring?
 
#20 ·
While my employer is officially anti, one of our bosses told one of the guys at an outlying office that he was reluctant to come out there because we were all a bunch of gun nuts. Of course he meant that in the nicest possible way.
 
#22 ·
One of the reasons why I enjoy being retired is that I no longer have to deal with such situations--plus not having to get up early anymore. :yup:
 
#23 ·
I was talking to my boss about getting my CCP and starting to OC. We talked guns for a bit. He's an ex sheriff. Then he tell me his handgun is in the car door in the parking lot. Always. Never "told" him where mine was. Lock box behind my seat in the truck yard. Note to self, anyone says anything go immediately to my boss.

Then I was training a new manager in my warehouse. It's not in a nice part of town, few of them are. He tells me if he were to work there he would carry every night. Not sure that company policy is of much concern for me right now. Now if I could get the feds to let me carry in the tractor, I'd be good to go.
 
#25 ·
Oh yeah, I met the "Men in Black" at AT&T before I retired... they searched everything but my person and my personal truck. Told me I had to take down my R. Lee Ermey poster! I guess the Gunny scared one of the sheep! :mad:

Good grief! :rolleyes:
 
#27 ·
Although my company does not allow office carry, it is written in the policy that you can keep your gun in your locked car in the parking lot. I've just started cc'ing, and in the course of water cooler conversations, I'm surprised at how many in the office have carry permits. Also, found out recently that 10% of the population in my zip code have carry permits.
 
#29 ·
My employer didnt allow weapons in our cars at work (cant even smoke in your car on "campus". Laws have since changed, so they wanted to rewrite the policy to ban ammo. My direct boss told them they couldnt do that and if they did, he'd be the first gone. He is ex-army, ex Fed leo, and keeps a vest in his car lol. My entire team is gun nuts
 
#31 · (Edited)
Have any of you had similar encounters with your company? Do you just go with the flow smile and nod or do you set them strait?

Discuss...
Well the company I work for was bought out by a larger Swiss company in 2005, so our "bosses" (my boss's bosses) are from England and Switzerland. You can imagine their views on firearms are not exactly similar to ours. I know 4 or 5 co-workers in my hallway have firearms at home, but I doubt any of them carry here. (A few have them locked in their vehicles.) We have a strict no firearms on property rule (with reminders every time a gun law in the state is passed) and with the way the economy is, it's not worth risking our jobs.

The boss over the Texas office is actually my ex-step dad (long story) and a vivid gun owner. I went to his house the other day and he had his .50 cal Desert Eagle, .50 Cal S&W 500, and his Colt Anaconda out for a good cleaning....
Gun Firearm Trigger Revolver Gun barrel
Firearm Gun Trigger Air gun Gun barrel

(Sorry for the poor quality cell phone pics.)

So while people in my office are gun friendly, our superiors overseas are not.
 
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