Is Ohio anti-gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
    They live about 35 miles south of Cleveland so KY is out of the question. You know, one of the best feelings I get is when I am heading south on I-75 and I see the water tower in Florence, Ky that says FLORENCE YA'LL. It makes me feel like I am home again.
    Haha, it was originally going to say Florence Mall, but there's a state law that won't let you advertise on government buildings or whatever. So they changed it to ya'll. Good decision I think. :)

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    LOL! I drive by that water tower almost weekly.

    IIRC it did say Mall for a while, maybe 15 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
    My wife and I are planning to move up there in about three years. She needs to be closer to her family then I do mine. A Georgia Peach in the Buckeye state, now that should be interesting!
    3 years, I don't want to jinx us, but our laws should be fixed by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodSamaritan
    LOL! I drive by that water tower almost weekly.

    IIRC it did say Mall for a while, maybe 15 years ago.
    I was driving back from Lexington just this afternoon and laughed at that tower.

    I don't think the people of Ohio are anti-gun as a whole. I'm sure there are some of the cities that are though - like Columbus and Toledo. And some of the CCW laws are just plain stupid but we are slowly working on fixing them. There is a bill now that would fix the plain sight (which is exceptionally vague and basically left up to whoever stops you to decide) and I think make the state law preempt city laws. Taft has threatened to veto this bill because the Ohio State Highway Patrol is against it. In my opinion it is the politician leaders of the HP and not the majority of the troopers - just my opinion.
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    For all you other Ohioans, the bill which we are talking about is House Bill 347 (HB347). It passed overwhelmingly in the house, but we need to get it through Senate. Please contact your senators and let them know how you feel. Stand up for our state and let your politicians know we are NOT anti-gun. Also, contact Bob Taft and remind him who he works for. One of the many ways to get your politicians' contact info is through Ohioans for Concealed Carry (www.ohioccw.org), but if you don't want to go that route, its really only a Google seach away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
    ...carry in plain sight in a car?
    This is the most ludicrous gun law I have ever read!

    But what an opportunity for holster makers: transparent lexan instead of kydex.

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    Something else to be aware of in Ohio - you must be carrying the gun in a holster, in plain sight, and on your person while in a vehicle. That means no seat belt clips (not on your person) or in your (unlocked) console. And you can't forget the holster part.

    As anti-gun as Illinois? Give me a break. We have our faults but we're getting better.

    The state troopers will give you a problem before any local cops will. They are the ones that petitioned for the 'poison pill' - the plain sight law. However, to date, everyone I know who has been pulled over (state police or local) have had good experiences.

    Myself - I carry IWB in the car and just pull my shirt over the butt of the gun. A lot of folks are weary of this since it may not qualify as 'plain sight'. My take on it is - 'plain sight' has NEVER been defined in regards to CCW - so if the cop wants to bust you for a plain sight violation, and you don't have the gun duct taped to your forehead, then he's going to bust you.

    Really, the ONLY safe way to vehicle carry is in a locked glove box. The locked case may look like a good alternative - but guess what - it has to be in 'plain sight' too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooligan
    For all you other Ohioans, the bill which we are talking about is House Bill 541 (HB541). It passed overwhelmingly in the house, but we need to get it through Senate. Please contact your senators and let them know how you feel. Stand up for our state and let your politicians know we are NOT anti-gun. Also, contact Bob Taft and remind him who he works for. One of the many ways to get your politicians' contact info is through Ohioans for Concealed Carry (www.ohioccw.org), but if you don't want to go that route, its really only a Google seach away.
    I believe that the name and website of the organization changed to Buckeye Firearms Association at http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/index.php
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    "As anti-gun as Illinois? Give me a break. We have our faults but we're getting better."

    Ok, I'll give you that one for sure. You aren't is bad as MASS., CAL, or ILL.

    "The state troopers will give you a problem before any local cops will. They are the ones that petitioned for the 'poison pill' - the plain sight law. However, to date, everyone I know who has been pulled over (state police or local) have had good experiences"

    Well these are the ones that I have the most chance of encountering on my joyful jaunts up I-71. A Georgia resident with a non-resident FLA permit. I hope they are well versed on the reciprocity laws because my two year old, my wife, and me would not appreciate having a .40 Glock stuck to my head because of some over zealous trooper. Also, if I am by-passing CINN and COL am I still within city limits? If so isn't my carry in the glove box now illegal. I'm not trying to be a pain in the wazzu, but I really don't want to be the one fighting the test cases in court. Not that I don't want to fight for FREEDOM, I just don't have the deep pockets or a very understanding employer.

    "Really, the ONLY safe way to vehicle carry is in a locked glove box. The locked case may look like a good alternative - but guess what - it has to be in 'plain sight' too."

    Doesn't offer quick access but it'll do for now. I guess that I can reholster the weapon in the car and carry into the Stop and Robs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
    Doesn't offer quick access but it'll do for now. I guess that I can reholster the weapon in the car and carry into the Stop and Robs?
    Doc,

    You could do that. But like I said - I just carry my weapon in an IWB and don't worry about it. It's up to you - but in my experience the police - even the troopers - don't give us CCW'ers many problems here in Ohio. Of course - you could always get that one anti-gun trooper...

    In the more 'anti-gun' areas of Ohio (Columbus, Toledo, and Cleveland) you'll see a plethora of no gun signs hanging about. There is no pre-emption law (yet) so city-wide bans of high-cap magazines still apply.

    Rest stops are also no-carry zones - so make sure everyone uses the bathroom before you cross the border. :)

    I hope your trip goes well.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyW
    I believe that the name and website of the organization changed to Buckeye Firearms Association at http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/index.php
    Tony:

    Very long story, but both OFCC (ohioccw.org) and Buckeye Firearms are active in the protection of our RKBA.

    The Buckeye group split off from OFCC a little while back.

    There's a bunch of activity in the legislature to get rid of the "plain sight" issue and other problems in OH's CHL law, but the odds are that nothing really will happen until the next Governor is sworn in and is willing to sign something. I don't have a lot of faith, but I've been wrong before. There was that day in 1967..... :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis
    This is the most ludicrous gun law I have ever read!

    But what an opportunity for holster makers: transparent lexan instead of kydex.
    Plain sight in a vehicle. That makes things interesting for those on 2 wheels. How about this scenario, a long haired biker riding down the highway w/ a thigh holster to hopefully be in plain sight and comply w/ the law. How many calls to the police are going out for that one??? How about a slick transformation to concealed once said biker dismounts bike??? ridiculous!!

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