This is a discussion on Notified for the first time tonight within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by cmdrdredd A LOT of people notify anyway because an officer that knows the situation is better than a gun in your ear ...
Most of us interact with our fellow man in a way that can be called “Universally Preferable Behavior” basically a lengthy way of describing the “Golden Rule”. I treat those around me well and do not steal from them, rape them, hurt them, etc because I hope that they treat me the same way.
The only way to FORCE someone to stop committing a crime is to physically alter their actions.
Government, in it’s nature does not have your best interest in mind. Government has it’s own self interest in mind at all times. If it had our interest in mind it wouldn’t take half our income, throw appx 3.2% (source Wiki, yes can be flawed) of our population in jail or have them monitored or be a massively oppressive system in general.
The general idea of living without an all powerful government, I admit, is a scary concept because there are so many unknowns. Instead of attacking the idea and embracing the idea that someone else has the right to rule over you try researching the philosophy of a stateless society. There is a very good book out on the subject by “Stephan Molyneux” at Freedomain Radio - Free Books! all of the books listed are available as PDF’s or in mp3 audiobook format. Start with Universally Preferable Behaviour: A Rational Proof of Secular Ethics if you’d like a basic knowledge of the concept of freedom.
And exactly who are we supposed to make accountable? The government as a whole? Or the individual people that make up the government? Are we supposed to sue them for sending our young men and women off to fight for a lie? Are we supposed to try the President or a former President for fraud for giving our dollar to private banks? Who exactly can we hold accountable for the medical experiments performed on our citizens over the centuries?
If LEO’s were doing their real jobs they’d be taking criminals off the streets not writing speeding tickets or responding to neighbors having a squabble over a barking dog. I have family in LEO and get to hear the petty things they do all day instead of stopping crime.
You keep going back to “we” elected someone… but I don’t recall electing anyone and don’t recall telling anyone else that they can speak for me. Basic problem with the Democratic principle. 4 Wolves and 3 sheep voting on what’s for dinner…
Bad cops, sure. Just do a youtube search for “police brutality”.
Bad judges… yeah, more bad one’s then good one’s. You hear about it every day.
Terribly inept Presidents? Yeah, about 40 of them that have done something to trample on the Constitution in some way or another. Hell, the Founding Fathers were an oxymoron. They kicked out one tyrant only to replace it with another and argued over how to divide their new power up.
If you weed out all the vile men in positions of power, out of the what, 535 in Federal office?, we’d be left with about a dozen people. Yet the American people keep voting the same idiots in year after year because those “vile people” keep doling out stolen money. Whomever says they’ll give the American people the most money gets the most votes. No matter that the only money they give is stolen from you and I.
something yourself, how is electing someone else to do it for you ok?
As far as criminals go, look up the book I referenced above. Also the concept of “Dispute Resolution Organizations”
I’m not trying to ‘start a fight’ with you or tell you that you are wrong. Only that I believe that a government is not the solution and we are wasting our time trying to fix an imperfect system.
Obviously I didn't word my original reply correctly if you're under the impression that I think that any interaction with law inforcement is an infringment.
I have family in law enforcement. I appreciate some of what they do. I also believe that some of the laws they enforce are unjust.
Some of us draw our line as to what is infringment in different places, that's all.
Yea but I just think it's cute that my boy wants to be just like ol' Dad.
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Laws are restrictive but sometimes necessary to maintain a civil society. Rights are nonrestrictive but are always necessary to maintain a free society.
Dang Strat, sorry you have to live in America.
You must be grumpy every day :)
"...trying to get a long gun into play while someone is all over you like a monkey eating a cupcake is not very conducive to good survival techniques." ~Bark'n
I drive to work on a road that was paid for with stolen funds instead of hiring a private company to do the same without the need of threat of force
I go to work and leave my firearm in my car because of the private contract I voluntarily agreed to between my employer and I.
I go home and spend time with my wife (whom I voluntarily agreed to marry and spend time with) and my kids...
The only time "force" comes into the equation is when I forcibly have 40% of my income stolen from me by the government.
Most of my life (and yours) is already "anarchistic" in nature because we are voluntarily doing something in a mutual relationship with someone else. We don't have government forcing us to do something and it's not chaos and destruction like everyone seems to think no government would be.
Browsing the forums I just saw that there are no politics talk allowed. Sorry all for breaking that one. I'll refrain in the future and keep my viewpoints to myself or to political forums where they are appropriate.
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because the law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." - Thomas Jefferson