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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmac00 View Post
    Long story short, most NYS cops could careless you have a firearm? which seems kind of weird because of the way the legislature is trying there best to restrict hand guns
    You have to understand that representation in the legislature is based on population, and the majority of the population is in New York City. So they are going to have a huge misguided influence on gun laws upstate.

    Sometimes I wish they would become their own state and leave us upstaters alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cl00bie View Post
    You have to understand that representation in the legislature is based on population, and the majority of the population is in New York City. So they are going to have a huge misguided influence on gun laws upstate.

    Sometimes I wish they would become their own state and leave us upstaters alone.


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    Nope. No requirement to inform. Only when asked or if the handgun will become visible should you then tell them.

    Also, use the Firearm word, not the Weapon word. It will go better.

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    NY State

    A long time ago I lived in Wayne county, NY I worked as a two-way radio technician, and had to go into "bad" areas, both during the day and on night call outs. Being I am a smaller guy, I opted for a PPK.
    (Hey, if its good enough for James Bond, its good enough for me, LOL)
    I had finished a call out at 4AM and wanted to get some coffee and breakfest before going in for my regular shift, so I went into the first restaurant open, a "Big Boy". Turned out to be a on-duty cop coffee bar (free coffee for LEOs). I had on a jacket and the PPK was in a waistband holster. I guess its outline became apparent when I sat at the counter on a stool, so one of the cops came over and asked if I was armed? I said yes, and I have a permit. He said I want to see it. I said "the firearm or the permit?". He said "gun, first". So, I drew it out slowly, and popped the clip. I handed him the PPK and put the clip in my pocket, then got out my permit and handed it over. (Note: I popped the clip because it would not fire with it . The LEOs were issued model 10 revolvers, and I was afraid he would light off a round trying to clear it.)
    His next remark is classic. He held up the PPK and said to the other LEOs, "hey, he has a better gun than they give us". Then he returned the gun and permit.
    Things go better when you cooperate and don't act sarcastic.

    Note: in Florida your permit shows when they run your plates and get to the DL# for the owner. Although Florida is a not inform state, I will, to keep from some new LEO from over reacting to the "discovery" of a firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastercapt View Post
    Note: in Florida your permit shows when they run your plates and get to the DL# for the owner. Although Florida is a not inform state, I will, to keep from some new LEO from over reacting to the "discovery" of a firearm.
    That's incorrect information. Each individual agency after the traffic stop can note a Florida CWP in their independent agency computer system, however only other LEO's within that agency can see you have a CWP. It's not state wide information...
    Last edited by puncho; October 23rd, 2009 at 08:54 PM. Reason: More Info

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    I have been pulled over twice while carrying in NY. In both cases, I did NOT inform the LEO. I would only inform if somehow my firearm was gonna come into play (i.e. if firearm was in glove compartment and I needed to get in there to get registration, etc.).
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    Last Friday evening I was towing my popup camper and we pulled over on the side of the road in front of a Subway restaurant and I flipped on my hazard flashers while my wife went into the restaurant to buy us food.

    I saw a Sheriff's deputy approaching behind flipped on his lights, parked behind me and got out of the car. I looked up quick to see if I was in a no standing or stopping zone, and I wasn't, so I rolled down the window and put my hands on the top if the steering wheel.

    When he got to the window, he asked: "Is everything ok?" I said: "Yes, officer. My wife is in the restaurant buying our food. Is it ok to stop here?" He said: "Sure. I know what a pain it is to find a place to park those things. I just wanted to make sure you didn't need help. Have a nice night." Then he got back in his car, turned off his lights and drove off.

    He didn't ask for my driver's license, and I didn't volunteer the fact that I had an unrestricted pistol permit and a Ruger LCP in my left front pocket.

    It must be getting natural to carry. I was more worried about a parking infraction than carrying a loaded pistol. :)
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    I'm just going to guess here: But I think if the State of New York issues you a Permit to carry a firearm, the cops probably think your an upstanding citizen to start with and therefore are not that big of a threat.
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    In the one recent instance, I was told by the Trooper that I wasn't obligated to tell him I had an unrestricted carry license, or a weapon on me. So it was a case of "Thanks but that is not the issue here." Very professional about everything, as usual around here.

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    NY Firearm Limit? Need Clarification

    I was reading the NY State Penal code on FIREARMS AND OTHER DANGEROUS WEAPONS and one section of the code caught my attention:

    265.02 Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree.
    A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the third
    degree when:
    (1) Such person commits the crime of criminal possession of a weapon
    in the fourth degree as defined in subdivision one, two, three or five
    of section 265.01, and has been previously convicted of any crime; or
    (2) Such person possesses any explosive or incendiary bomb, bombshell,
    firearm silencer, machine-gun or any other firearm or weapon simulating
    a machine-gun and which is adaptable for such use; or
    (3) Such person knowingly possesses a machine-gun, firearm, rifle or
    shotgun which has been defaced for the purpose of concealment or
    prevention of the detection of a crime or misrepresenting the identity
    of such machine-gun, firearm, rifle or shotgun; or
    (5) (i) Such person possesses three or more firearms; or (ii) such
    person possesses a firearm and has been previously convicted of a felony
    or a class A misdemeanor defined in this chapter within the five years
    immediately preceding the commission of the offense and such possession
    did not take place in the person's home or place of business; or
    (6) Such person knowingly possesses any disguised gun; or
    (7) Such person possesses an assault weapon; or
    (8) Such person possesses a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
    Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree is a class D
    felony.

    Subsection 5 states that possession of 3 or more firearms is a Class D felony. Furthermore Section 265.03 and 265.04 limits firearms to 5 and 10 respectively. I researched the Exceptions section of the penal code and only found that pistol PERMIT holders are exempted. However, I could not find exceptions to other types of firearms such as a shotgun or rifle.

    I dont ever recall a limit on the number of firearms one can own. Does the limit apply to phsycially possessing on his/her person? I must be overlooking something.

    Your help is appreciated.

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    Look at the definition of a "firearm" in 265.00. It defines a firearm as a rifle with a barrel less than 16", shotgun barrel less than 18", etc...

    I legal rifle or shotgun is not a "firearm" so possessing as many as you want is fine.

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    Golden Ticket....

    I've been pulled over a few times....tail light, touching line on shoulder (weaving) and a smidge over posted limit.....in each case I handed over CCW with Drivers ID...when asked by LEO 'why?' I replied that 'in the event you ask me to exit the vehicle, I want everything clearly understood....' 'Drive safe' and 'Have a good night' each time.....I don't make a habit of being pulled over mind you....but I think that I de-escalated what tends to be a dangerous part of LEO job...I just feel that they appreciated it and cut me a little slack as one of the good guys......
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    I was stopped once on the way home from late night bowling. My friend whose family was comprised of a few LEOs thought it would be prudent to inform even though he was only the passenger.

    Having a nervous LEO draw and point his weapon at you is not a good way to end the evening. When he finally calmed down at least he decided not to issue a ticket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetpilot007 View Post
    I was reading the NY State Penal code on FIREARMS AND OTHER DANGEROUS WEAPONS and one section of the code caught my attention:

    Your help is appreciated.
    265.20 Exemptions

    a. Sections 265.01, 265.02, 265.03, 265.04, 265.05, 265.10, 265.11,
    265.12, 265.13, 265.15 and 270.05 shall not apply to:
    .
    .
    3. Possession of a pistol or revolver by a person to whom a license
    therefor has been issued as provided under section 400.00 or 400.01 of
    this chapter; provided, that such a license shall not preclude a
    conviction for the offense defined in subdivision three of section
    265.01 of this article.

    ------------

    265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.

    (3) He knowingly has in his possession a rifle, shotgun or firearm in
    or upon a building or grounds, used for educational purposes, of any
    school, college or university, except the forestry lands, wherever
    located, owned and maintained by the State University of New York
    college of environmental science and forestry, without the written
    authorization of such educational institution;

    --------

    265.00 Definitions.
    As used in this article and in article four hundred, the following
    terms shall mean and include:

    3. "Firearm" means (a) any pistol or revolver; or (b) a shotgun having
    one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length; or (c) a rifle
    having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length; or (d)
    any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle whether by alteration,
    modification, or otherwise if such weapon as altered, modified, or
    otherwise has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches; or (e)
    an assault weapon. For the purpose of this subdivision the length of the
    barrel on a shotgun or rifle shall be determined by measuring the
    distance between the muzzle and the face of the bolt, breech, or
    breechlock when closed and when the shotgun or rifle is cocked; the
    overall length of a weapon made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance
    between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to
    the center line of the bore. Firearm does not include an antique
    firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnowell View Post
    Typically the way laws work is that there's only a law when something is required or prohibited. In states where notification is mandated, there's a law requiring it. In states where it isn't required, there's no such law. Nobody's going to come up with a specific law that says you don't have to notify, just like nobody's going to come up with a law that says you can make coffee in the morning. You can just do it, since there's no law about it.




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