Seattle Park Gun Ban, First Sign Spotted

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    Seattle Park Gun Ban, First Sign Spotted

    West Seattle Blog… Park gun ban: First sign sighting in West Seattle

    What an incredible waste of tax payer money for these hideous signs that will be showing up in parks all over Seattle. Our AG will not support this ban created by lame duck mayor Greg Nickels. If arrests are made these signs will cost tax payers even more money in litigation.

    Why not invest the sign money into hiring new LEOs or provide additional training for the ones we have?
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    Absolutely, what a joke. I believe this will end up being another stupid ban on the books so the mayor can attach his name to it for 'doing it for the children'. However with no legal basis behind it will just fade away and never backed up.

    What has this really accomplished? Just a waste of time and money.
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    I love Washington, it is wonderfully beautiful place with so many out door activities year round...
    That being said, I'm glad to have moved. My childhood stomping ground is turning into a little California with new laws and restrictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmbrcstm2 View Post
    If arrests are made these signs will cost tax payers even more money in litigation.

    Why not invest the sign money into hiring new LEOs or provide additional training for the ones we have?
    The first couple $10M civil rights abuse cases will start to get the attention of municipalities.

    It's too bad that politicos get to essentially do what they please until a court battle occurs. Trouble is, prior to that day, an untold number of citizens are going to get cuffed-and-stuffed for obeying state law, and those citizens will have to expend an untold amount of money and damage to their reputations in order to swat down the stupidity. All the while, the politicos don't get damaged in a single way.

    What SHOULD happen is that the court should weight-in on the question of survivability of statutes prior to their becoming law, else they cannot become law. The mere wish of a political hack to have something done should not be sufficient. It should first pass legal muster, at least when we're speaking of crimes and punishments. At minimum, a check as to the basic legality and viability of a municipal ordinance or state statute should occur, prior to it going into effect.
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    A hacksaw after dark would make quick work of that sign.

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    Wow, great letter with the picture though.

    I saw the sign for the first time today, and was very disturbed by both the content and the placement of the sign. We moved from the East Coast over a year ago, and settled near Lincoln Park because of the peaceful community ambience of the Fauntleroy/Arbor Heights area. Had I seen these signs in Seattle parks as a prospective home buyer, I would have chosen the ‘burbs, assuming there must be firearm problems if there have to be signs on playgrounds. (Which, now that I live here, know is not the case). Signs and laws don’t dissuade gang members from wielding their guns in any public location, unfortunately. As far as I’m concerned, the only things these signs accomplish are decreased property values and creating unnecessary fear in law-abiding citizens.

    I had to respond to my 2 year-olds questions about “The sign with the gun on it” today…. Maybe they should also post “No Drugs” and “No Sex” signs at the park. I’d love to have to explain those things to him while he’s still in preschool. (I am, of course, angrily sarcastic).

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    I was looking at the picture again, is that writing on the bottom a time when the ban is enforced? Like 8-4 or something?

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    I was thinking the proper PR stunt would be to have a CCW BBQ in the park, but have no one carry (but don't tell anyone that). Signs saying CCW Guild of Seattle BBQ or whatever. News show up, people talk about CCW, talk about the "law". Police called, people show permits. Asked to leave. On what grounds?

    It would be in the true spirit of Mayor. Comedy of errors.

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    no go all out everyone Open Carry in the park ;)
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    Yah, I just posted a comment.

    As for why not carry vs open carry, why give the mayor what he wants? Arresting a bunch of open carriers on the news would just make him happy. Getting all wound up and finding there was nothing there in the first place.... frustrating.

    Just a thought.

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    The interesting thing about this "ban" is, AFAIK, doesn't really change much for CCW carriers. Basically, if they *see* a firearm, they can ask you to leave, which is basically the same as a business.

    I didn't look closely but it seemed you could only be arrested if you refused to leave, same as a business.

    It seems to me this only really hits OCers, and AFAIK, OC is fairly rare in the city.

    All in all a big waste of everyone's time.

    Seems it is more meant to make the mayor feel good than anything else.

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    Yup, that sign will keep everyone safe!
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