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    SA/DA in Connecticut

    Does anyone have any information on carrying a SA/DA handgun in Connecticut. At my permit class the instructor said to never carry one because the lawyers will hang you out to dry if you ever needed to use it. That sounds kind of strange to me so I wanted to see if anyone else had any knowledge about it.

    Thanks in advance!

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    I am an attorney in the State of Connecticut.

    I am PMing you my cell phone.

    You and I need to talk about your CCW instructor.

    I have several highly offensive things to say about what he taught you that I don't even know I'm going to say.

    Suffice to say, its BS.

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    C'mon share with the rest of us. Of course it sounds like bs, but what may have led him to teach such a thing. Unless of course he was just full of the s part.

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    Probably one of the ones that tells you not to use an aftermarket barrel, sights, defense ammo, or anything bigger than 9mm.
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    Yeah, Please share...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 97tbird View Post
    ... carrying a SA/DA handgun...

    Thanks in advance!
    By SA/DA, do you mean the first shot is DA (double action), followed by subsequent SA (single action) shot(s) until you decock the gun?

    I did have an instructor caution us not to manually cock these type handguns prior to your first shot in a self defense situation. Some overzealous DAs interpret this as a deliberate & overt act, indicating that you had intent to fire your gun before the situation actually warranted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenInColo View Post
    By SA/DA, do you mean the first shot is DA (double action), followed by subsequent SA (single action) shot(s) until you decock the gun?

    I did have an instructor caution us not to manually cock these type handguns prior to your first shot in a self defense situation. Some overzealous DAs interpret this as a deliberate & overt act, indicating that you had intent to fire your gun before the situation actually warranted.
    Um, excuse me if I'm wrong, but I think it's safe to say that if you pull your gun, you have intent to use it. So cocking the hammer back shows MORE intent to use it? Either you intend to, or not.

    (Granted, we all hope we don't have to, and that simply pulling the firearm will deter the criminal, but we do not count on that. We only pull our firearms out to protect ourselves, family, and property.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueNinjaGo View Post
    Um, excuse me if I'm wrong, but I think it's safe to say that if you pull your gun, you have intent to use it. So cocking the hammer back shows MORE intent to use it? Either you intend to, or not.

    (Granted, we all hope we don't have to, and that simply pulling the firearm will deter the criminal, but we do not count on that. We only pull our firearms out to protect ourselves, family, and property.)
    I hear you. If I draw, it will be b/c I am in fear for my life or of great physical danger & it will probably be immediately followed by me firering.


    Never-the-less, I did have an instructor mention that & I can see the reasoning behind the statement.

    I have mastered the first DA pull on my edc. It is just as accurate as a SA shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 97tbird View Post
    Does anyone have any information on carrying a SA/DA handgun in Connecticut. At my permit class the instructor said to never carry one because the lawyers will hang you out to dry if you ever needed to use it. That sounds kind of strange to me so I wanted to see if anyone else had any knowledge about it.

    Thanks in advance!
    Statements like this make my BS meter peg out! Sounds like your instructor has no idea what he's talking about, but likes to hear himself spout off.

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    Possibly the instructor did not make such a statement and rather the student misheard or misinterpreted what was stated/being advised.

    This too happens as with students who either are not listening well (misheard) and/or as through content that is quite involved (misinterpreted/misunderstood).

    It happens, a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenInColo View Post
    By SA/DA, do you mean the first shot is DA (double action), followed by subsequent SA (single action) shot(s) until you decock the gun?

    I did have an instructor caution us not to manually cock these type handguns prior to your first shot in a self defense situation. Some overzealous DAs interpret this as a deliberate & overt act, indicating that you had intent to fire your gun before the situation actually warranted.
    - How would anyone possibly know or prove that the hammer was already pulled back or not?

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    I'm guessing at what the instructor meant...

    With a DA/SA pistol, there is a long heavy trigger pull for the first shot. If the first shot is justified, no problem.

    However...the second shot is SA, and only takes a light trigger pull to fire. If a DA says you did not "need" to fire the second shot, but you did anyway because of being accustomed to the first, long, heavy trigger pull...you could end up in trouble.

    It is much easier to "accidentally" fire a second shot with a DA/SA than it is with a DAO or SA, where the trigger is the same with every shot. This transition from DA to SA is why I personally despise the DA/SA trigger. Under stress, it is just too easy to fire a second shot when you may not have meant to.

    I'm guessing that may be what the instructor was getting at (?).
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    You know, if that "evidendce of intent" bs has any credibility because you cocked the hammer , then just reading or posting to this forum could be interpreted by a highly-motivated prosecutor as evidence of intent to do harm, at least here in NewJerseystan.

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    I am LEO in Connecticut, I guess my P.D. is going to have issues since we have DA/SA pistols.

    Total BS if what you wrote is accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tokerblue View Post
    - How would anyone possibly know or prove that the hammer was already pulled back or not?
    • a witness might/could see you
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