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Good Luck
This is a discussion on No Weapons policy after company merger. (Network Engineer in TX looking for new job.) within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Petition the management. This may be a very old rule from the new company. They may be open to suggestions. Scenarios help. Good Luck...
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Petition the management. This may be a very old rule from the new company. They may be open to suggestions. Scenarios help.
Good Luck
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I know how you feel. I absolutely cannot carry at work, period. I lock it up in the car.
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"You've never lived until you've almost died. For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the protected will never know" - T.R.
<----My LT was unhappy that I did not have my PASS-Tag at that fire. But I found the body so he said he would overlook it. :)
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+1 Agreed.Originally Posted by GoodSamaritan
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I know how you feel at least. I'm in the Navy and can't carry either to or from work, to say nothing about while in uniform. I could just see the court martial on that!! lol
As others have said I think you are going to have to balance the job market, trouble you would get in if caught and family concerns and make the best decision you can.
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Play by the rules, especially if you like earning a paycheck and you like working there, but keep looking for something else if you want. Another network engineer who's enjoying employment right now.
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Most every company these days has similar wording in their employee manuals. Staying under the radar screen definitely pays off!
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I would play by the rules, but see what I could do to make the rules. Is there somewhere close you could park "off property"? If not, leave it at home and go talk to your management. Explain to them that you would never carry it "at work" but would it be acceptable to leave it in the car, maybe even locked in the trunk when you enter company property. Personally, I wouldn't fall on my sword over it by quiting a job I otherwise enjoyed. Just consider all options to work it out.
Good luck!
Bumper
Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.
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Not to be taken as advice, just something that I "thought of":
Now, our company also has a "No weapons" policy, which tech. could also include the auto knife that I carry or the knives that the rest of the employees carry. Just hasn't become an "issue" yet.
Yet, I would find that maybe a small 5-shot .38 in lets say, an ankle holster, would work just fine (again, depends on your job). Since I work behind a desk and am only one the ground under desks to set up new computer systems for the center, I would just ensure that I was in a position that an ankle holster wouldn't show to anyone. That is if I carried.
Pocket would be out of the question since I have to clip the auto to my pocket so that it is showing (so not concealed) as per Oregon law (lawful to have and carry but can't be concealed.... hum, reminds me that I need to send it back to benchmade to get it shapened... again).
Also IWB or OWB is out of the question due to they keep the heat to about 2000 degrees in the winter (and I can get it down to 1800 degrees by having the window open) but in the summer it would be easier since they keep the AC down to -200 (yes, I wear a coat during the summer inside the building because of it).
But, honestly, I "respect" the companies rule of law over me while I am in their employment. I mean, if I get killed going or coming home from work then it's no big deal to them, they don't have to pay and can't be sued (it wasn't on their property), and if I am killed while working, then they know that most families will sue the gun manufacturer or the gun shops in the area and if they do sue the company, then they say that they "did the best they could" and get away with it via a stupid jury (and yes, they do try to get the lowest of the IQ's sitting in the room, seen it with my own eyes, if you have half a brain cell still alive you will be dismissed, here anyway).
Also look into your states laws when it comes to workers protections and what the company can and cannot enforce. You'd be surprised how much illegal garbage they put into their books they make you sign that won't hold up court but the employee is too scared to look into it for themselves.
Wayne
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I am another Network Engineer. My company also has a no guns on the property rule but, specifaly does not mention vehicles or job sites.
When I questioned what I thought was my GFW boss, He showed me his CCW and said insurance.
The No Guns on the Property rule is purely to keep the insurance company happy. The policy does not mention vehicles or customer property. On customer properiy we play by their rules. At GFW sites we lock them in the van.
Jmiked
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Yeaaah, ya' cheatin' firefighters and your hickory axe handles!
Unarmed my arse! I know of two LEs who were saved by the judicious application of hickory to multiple assailants.Go Fire 56!
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Yeah, but I haven't taken that class in axe-throwing yet so I'd much rather have my XD riding shotgun!Yeaaah, ya' cheatin' firefighters and your hickory axe handles!
Unarmed my arse! I know of two LEs who were saved by the judicious application of hickory to multiple assailants.
Firefighter/EMT
"You've never lived until you've almost died. For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the protected will never know" - T.R.
<----My LT was unhappy that I did not have my PASS-Tag at that fire. But I found the body so he said he would overlook it. :)
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Company Policy is not the law so screw 'em ... pack your piece while you look for work elsewhere.
When you do give notice, make sure to tell them in a letter that the reason you are leaving is because of their bigoted policy against law abiding folk licensed to carry and maybe allude to the notion that you're considering a discrimination law suit (no you wouldn't win, but ANY litigation costs the company more than they want to spend). Be sure to sprinkle your letter with lots of stats about self defense and the fact that virtually all mass shootings have occurred in "gun free zones").
Make sure you have any letters of recommendation from supervisors before sending your letter.
Of course I'd consider taking another job and then leaving without giving notice ... but I'm a vindictive *******.
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Yeah, NH isn't as "liberal" as KS, I'm sure, in that respect. KS would let anyone throw; you'll probably have to make Capt.!
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That sounds like fun, but, NO. Any letter like that will resurface, to your regret. "Illegal...blah, blah, blah", it will. The Good Ol Boy Boss Network does exist (I tap in myself, on occassion
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It all boils down to how badly you need your pay check.
Those advocating 'carry it anyway' do not depend on your paycheck.
Is your work environment so hostile that you have to carry a weapon for your personal safety ? If it is, I imagine you would have been looking for another job a long time ago.
Not being able to carry at work is not the end of the world.
The loss of income could mean a very different world for you and your family.
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