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Don't forget the most important thing of all: If you put your pistol inside your regular luggage, your luggage WILL NOT get lost. It's the closest thing you can have to a courier deliver it.
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Man, thanks everyone. It seems the general consensus is to definitely pack my pistol case within my regular luggage to have them checked together. I appreciate everyone's help. DefensiveCarry is easily the best forum on the 'net. Thanks again.
Well then, after I clicked the link to the descriptive article on page one of this thread, I'm torn between using my hard case alone for the gun and my main baggage separately, or packing a smaller case with the gun within my main baggage. I have some serious thinking to do.
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I store the small pistol safe in my luggage and wrap the cable that came with it around the support for the handle. That way it will be less likely to grow legs.
I prefer cable ties to TSA approved padlocks. I have had someone open my bags and NOT leave a note. Cables ties cut off a bag pretty much tell me as soon as I see the bag that it has been tampered with. Also my bags seem to get searched less once I switched to cable ties. I think the hassle factor for TSA to cut the ties off makes it easier for them to "randomly select" someone else's bag.
The only problem I had when I first started flying with my pistol was when I was told to lock the orange tag INSIDE my COM gun safe. I now ask the agent to get some of the airline "seal" tape they have at the counter, and wrap it around my pistol safe with the orange tag attached with the tape. It looks official and "sealed" that way.
The time I was told to put it in the gun safe, I was marched from the gate in Detroit by two cops back to the TSA supervisor. I showed the police my CHP since I was officially "approached" and once the TSA supervisor opened my gun safe (with my key), he found the tag, chuckled, and offered to trade me his Glock for my Kimber. I didn't take the deal.
I ALWAYS lock my checked back with a TSA lock if my gun safe is inside. That's just additional insurance and would point to an inside job if my gun was purloined from my luggage.
The only problem I see with that is if TSA removes the ties, your luggage spends the rest of it's trip unlocked. My experience is TSA relocks theTSA approved locks after opening them. You still have a more secure bag (but not much). And if it has been tampered with, knowing it ahead of time really isn't that helpful if your gun is already stolen.
If TSA removes the ties, then if something turns up missing I would start with a couple of questions for TSA. IMHO I don't believe TSA has the ONLY master key to a TSA lock. Once a TSA lock has been relocked, it can be difficult to show that the bag has been tampered with. If this is a specific concern for you, many bags have two lock attachment points so use one TSA approved lock and 1 cable tie. For that matter buy some tamper evident tape.
Knowing that my bag has been tampered with visually as it comes down the baggage chute is helpful before I claim it. Once I take possession of it, I become liable good or bad. Showing that it has been tampered with before I take possession has immediate value.
I fly under the assumption that my bag will eventually get pilfered (again). I don't trust the airlines to safeguard my bags nor do I trust the TSA to protect me from theft. Anyone with 5 minutes alone with luggage and a sturdy pocket tool can go through multiple bags. I'd rather make it obvious that my bag was opened and a TSA approved lock does not provide me with that assurance. For practical purposes all checked luggage is unlocked.
I do like OngngFreedom's suggestion about securing the box to the handle strut.
Good thread guys.
If you're going to use a TSA approved lock on your suitcase, go with one of THIS type, as it will alert you as to if the lock has been opened.
There are a few variations of these, both combo and keyed, all of which can be opened by the TSA without cliping the lock.
Last edited by Rotorflyr; November 7th, 2009 at 03:31 PM. Reason: Added photo
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