Applied for NV Non Res permit + first time air travel w/ firearm

Applied for NV Non Res permit + first time air travel w/ firearm

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    Applied for NV Non Res permit + first time air travel w/ firearm

    Just got back from Las Vegas. On a spur a the moment, I arranged to go for my Non Res permit while there.

    I came across a new member here Kurt Gepke who is a NV CCW permit instructor. I contacted him for info (initially planned to schedule for next trip) and found that he does private classes only, and will come to you at your hotel/resort to conduct the class if you do not have transportation.

    Very reasonable fee considering he came to me and that included the range fee for the qualification (which he drove me to and from) and offered to start the class really early and take me to the Sheriff's office after (I declined, took enough of his time) to drop off the application.

    8 hour class (by law) 1 on 1 and very informative. Explained the various laws, the political reasons behind them, and a good list of "should" and "should not". I.E. Open carry is legal on the strip and in the casinos, but not worth the hassle. I.E. KEEP IT CONCEALED - Read, OWB with cover garment (vest, unbuttoned shirt) be careful of accidental exposures, IWB untucked is technically OC but again, not advisable. Really hazy laws about the airport, in short, disarm before you get out of the car and revert to basic NV laws on vehicle transportation of firearms.

    IIRC he is going for his Utah instructor rating in the spring. So go to Vegas, and you can apply for NV, FL, and UT on one class.

    Air travel - Having never traveled with a firearm before, I am amazed by the inconsistencies. I did the research, printed out the TSA and airline policies and away I went.

    Departing Denver, checked the bag, told to put the "UNLOADED FIREARM" tags (2 - 1 for each) in the gun case, escorted to the TSA inspection point watched my bag get nuked, then the TSA agent had me open the suitcase lock, inspected my range bag (not my gun case) had me re-lock the suitcase, put a TSA inspection sticker on my bag (not supposed to???) and away it went.

    Departing Las Vegas, checked my bag, told to put the "UNLOADED FIREARM" tag on top of the gun case not inside, but this time I was told the TSA inspection was behind the counter and did not accompany my bag for inspection (near as I could tell, it did not get one).

    Got home, airline did not lose my luggage and nothing stolen.

    NV Sheriff's have 120 days to issue or decline, and I may get it in as early as 30. 30 minuets from the time I went in to exit to hit 5 different stations in the office (drop off app at 1, process at another, finger print, photo, verification). NOTE if you want to get a printed fingerprint card, you will need a separate money order, or cashiers check for that fee in addition to the CCW permit fee.

    NV permits must have the gun you are carrying listed (must qualify), caveat revolvers. Qualify with one, carry any revolver (Kurt loaned me his to qualify with in addition to my regular carry ). So this is trippy. You can rent every gun in the shop and qualify with it if you wish in the event that you may get a bug up your rear to maybe carry a Glock or XD rather than your CZ one day. So long as what you carry is the same make, model, and caliber listed on your permit

    One option for those that do not want to bring their carry with them (don't want to leave it in the Hotel unattended), rent the same gun (make, model, caliber) you carry at the range and you are good to go.

    All in all a very positive experience barring the "being naked" (not carrying) and anxiety of a firearm in checked baggage. Huge props to Kurt for what he offers to those interested in getting a non res permit for NV.

    I will update when I get the decision on my permit.
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    Could you post your total cost of getting the NV CWP, excluding travel, hotel, meals etc.

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    sounds like Kurt was quite the chauffeur

    Sounds like overall a great trip and sounds like Kurt was great to work with glad everything worked out.

    Definitely interesting about the qualifying guns I didn't now that about Las Vegas permits. Glad everything worked out!
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    Good write up.

    My Nevada permit only took 3 weeks and a few days, so hopefully you won't have to wait too long.

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    I am headed to Vegas the day after Thanksgiving and Kurt is giving me my class on a Sunday because of my schedule while there. I own a G30 and a G22 that I want to qualify with but my locking travel case only holds 1 pistol. My plan is to travel with my G30 and rent a G22 from the range so it can be on my permit. As you mentioned Kurt is loaning me a 38 revolver to get my revolver certification at no extra charge. Excellent.

    Kurt gets rave reviews from the folks over on Nevada Shooters forum Nevada Shooters

    I am getting certified in Clark County so you have to take your paperwork down to LVMPD on Cameron Street They take your picture and prints The fee is 100.25 cashiers check or money order ONLY.

    Kurts fees are very reasonable. Check his web site at www.teamdigit.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by puncho View Post
    Could you post your total cost of getting the NV CWP, excluding travel, hotel, meals etc.
    I don't want to post what I paid for the class, because as always, prices are subject to change, and I don't want to cause Kurt any grief.

    I will say that it is about average for the classes that I have looked into in both NV and CO.
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    We are going to Vegas in Dec. for a couple of days and then on to Scottsdale, AZ. The Texas CHL is valid in AZ but not NV.

    Thought aobut leaving my firearm locked in the car/hotel while in NV and then rearming on the drive to AZ.

    Any problem taking a firearm into NV w/o a NV license?
    Any other recommendations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slade View Post
    We are going to Vegas in Dec. for a couple of days and then on to Scottsdale, AZ. The Texas CHL is valid in AZ but not NV.

    Thought aobut leaving my firearm locked in the car/hotel while in NV and then rearming on the drive to AZ.

    Any problem taking a firearm into NV w/o a NV license?
    Any other recommendations?
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    No problems bringing the handguns into NV. You need a permit for concealed carry, but not just to have them. You can even keep a loaded firearm on the car seat as long as it is visible. OC is legal, but as noted by the OP, open carry on the strip isn't worth the hassle. You'll probably get a man with a gun call if you open carry on the strip. And open carry in a hotel/casino will get security on your case and you'll be escorted out.

    BTW, there are courses already available with instructors with multistate certfication. I applied for my resident Nevada permit the same day that I applied for y Utah and Florida permits. You can take a multistate course at The Gun Store on E Tropicanna any weekend. While I have read a few posts dissing The Gun Store and their class, I had a really good class and I was quite happy. I've also bought all of my handguns,y AR15, my Socom II, and my wife got me my AK47 there. Once again, I have geen very happy with them. Here's a link about their CCW class.
    http://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com/c...msclasses.html

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    Might be getting married in Las Vegas in a year...might have to consider taking a trip there before hand and getting a permit. Would make me feel a hell of a lot safer while walking down the strip and while at any of the casinos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logan View Post
    Might be getting married in Las Vegas in a year...might have to consider taking a trip there before hand and getting a permit. Would make me feel a hell of a lot safer while walking down the strip and while at any of the casinos.
    Most casino's are not very keen on carry of any kind. If it's posted NO WEAPONS, the sign does not carry the force of law, but you may be asked to leave if it's spotted, permit or not. Refusal will get you a trespassing charge.

    Just as an FYI, LVMPD will not let you walk down the strip if you OC. I know we are talking CC, but there is a fellow on Nevada Shooters Forum who got stopped and hassled big time while OC'ing on the strip. He has filed a complaint against LVMPD I think, but that's a huge hassle.

    I just finished my CCW course with Kurt Gepke on Sunday and took my paperwork down to the LVMPD CCW detail today. Kurt's class was excellent. His web site is Team Digit Hopefully I'll have my permit in 30 days or so.

    Be safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by logan View Post
    Might be getting married in Las Vegas in a year...might have to consider taking a trip there before hand and getting a permit. Would make me feel a hell of a lot safer while walking down the strip and while at any of the casinos.
    Logan, come visit, and have a great time. But there's no need to come in advance to get the permit. You just stand in line, and get it in a reasonably short time. I lived here from 1991-2000, when I moved to No. California to be with my girlfriend, and we moved back on 2005. Wanting to get married in Vegas, I set everything up, and we flew into town. The afternoon before the wedding, we went downtown, and picked up the permit (I believe that you both have to get the permit, but I'm not sure, you can check). It was pretty easy, and handled in a reasonable time. So, come for fun, or just save your money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squawker View Post
    Logan, come visit, and have a great time. But there's no need to come in advance to get the permit. You just stand in line, and get it in a reasonably short time. I lived here from 1991-2000, when I moved to No. California to be with my girlfriend, and we moved back on 2005. Wanting to get married in Vegas, I set everything up, and we flew into town. The afternoon before the wedding, we went downtown, and picked up the permit (I believe that you both have to get the permit, but I'm not sure, you can check). It was pretty easy, and handled in a reasonable time. So, come for fun, or just save your money.
    Well, yeah you do if you want to get a CC permit. Marriage permit is a whole 'nother thread.
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    Looking for marrage permit? My wife sells them at the Regional Justice Court. Place is open from 8AM until midnight, 7days a week. Here's the link for info. Good luck.

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    I meant a CC permit! I wouldn't post here about getting a marriage permit lol.
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