It wouldn't be here in SC.
This is a discussion on Weapon Free Zone - Ikea in Mesa AZ within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Ok, Went to Ikea today with the wife. As we were walking into the store, there was a Black and White sign that had a ...
Ok, Went to Ikea today with the wife.
As we were walking into the store, there was a Black and White sign that had a a picture of a pistol with the words Weapon-Free-Zone above the pistol.
There was no other wording, no red line or any type of line going through the pistol. There was nothing showing an Arizona Legal Statute.
I went back and stowed my gun in the car. Was this a legal sign for me not to carry ? It did not say now guns allowed, just a weapon free zone ?
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Those signs are meaningless in TN
"Don't Tread on Me"
Probably not legal, but Ikea is known to be very anti... considering it's european ownership it's not surprising...
They won't get any of my money anyway...
"Texas can make it without the United States, but the United States can't make it without Texas!".... Sam Houston
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The store is private property, and can post it in any manner they like. The worst that could happen is you'd be asked to leave with the threat of trespass if you came back. Don't confuse proper posting with our new law permitting concealed guns in bars/restaurants. If they want to forbid weapons, there are very specific criteria they must follow, including specific signs and placement.
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After reading this thread I vowed to never cross the threshold of an Ikea store.
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Been there lots of times, seen the quaint little "weapon-free zone" zone which carries no specifics and no references to AZ statutes. I definitely would not openly carry in that store, but that sign never stopped me from going in there carrying concealed. To me, at least, it's a non-issue. In the unlikely event that store personnel were to observe that I'm armed and I'm asked to leave, no problem - I'll leave. In the meantime, I'll just carry on as I have been doing.
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1. Does Arizona have a statute that specifies, like Texas, a certain type/format of sign has legal weight?
2. Does Arizona have a statute that specifies such a sign is the equivalent of being asked to leave (if you're armed) by the property owner?
If not, then you're fine.
In Oregon, there is no legal weight to such signs. They simply mean the property owner has a policy of disarming armed customers. It doesn't mean that you're a criminal if caught, criminally trespassing if caught, negligent for having missed the signs, or even a bad person for outright ignoring the silly things.
Whether it is a legally binding sign or not would be irrelevant to me. If they don't want me in there armed, they don't want me in there spending my money. I would have not disarmed, I would have taken the wife and left. Done it before and won't hesitate to do it again.
I dont think it matters if its the "legal" signage or not. If they are posting it "No Weapons" that means NO WEAPONS. Why chance it. Not worth a possible tresspassing charge.....I'd take my business elsewhere.
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As to whether a customer chooses to go elsewhere because of the obvious anti-American sentiment, that's something else entirely.
Good to know, I won't shop there. ~
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This rant is not intended for anyone specifically here, but if it applies, use it.
I love those who say, dang the sign, go in armed no matter what, it doesn't state specifically no weapons or this or that, go ahead, stand up for your rights, show them they can't tell you, you can't carry in their store, they can't tell you what to do.
Just remember as you sit in jail reflecting on the situation that you stood up for your rights over such a ridiculous sign, I'll be out here enjoying my freedom, still carrying and going into friendly stores that don't care or welcome a armed citizen.
Learn the laws of your state and you won't have to wonder about it.
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